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Stay on FW 13.37 or update to 15.31?

Rianor
8 days ago

What would you recommend?
Which firmware is more stable and has fewer bugs?
I'm still unsure whether I should switch to 15.31.

  • 0 8 days ago in reply to RandoCro

    Why would you recommend 15.31? You read a lot of bad things about it (laggy Interface).

  • 0 8 days ago in reply to Rianor

    You read a lot of bad things about nearly every version… 

    I don’t have any problems with 15.31 so far. But other people, with other settings and usecases may have problems.

  • 0 8 days ago in reply to Rianor

    Indeed, it's a difficult choice ;-) :

    - On the one hand, we read a lot of bad things about it (laggy interface)
    (sometimes half a second or even a full second of waiting)

    - On the other hand, there's this:

    Added Breathing Variations Support.
    Added Rucking activity.
    Added ability to track Pack Weight in Rucking and Run/Walk/Hike activity types
    Added Rep Counting Enhancements.
    Added Stage Timer App (Tactix 8).
    Added Tips App.
    Added ability to open Floors Climbed and Pulse Ox Apps from Morning Report.
    Added Arrival Alert During Navigation.
    Added Auto Pause Setting in Motorsport Activities.
    Added Deep-Link Option to View More DSW Settings in Garmin Connect.
    Added Golf Notifications to Wake the Display for Easy Readability.
    Added Multisport Category in Activity List.
    Added New Dedicated Sunrise/Sunset Data Screen in Activities.
    Added Sail Expedition Point Details Page.
    Added Setting for Notification Vibration Pattern.
    Added 'View Run' Option for Wake Sports.
    Added Voice Command Support for Applied Ballistics and Flying Apps (Tactix).
    Added Voice Command Support for Jumpmaster, Plan Dive, Reference Point, and Trolling Motor.
    Added Wrist Detect Support for Passcode when OHR is Disabled.
    Fixed "Update Available" Not Appearing in Map Manager.
    Fixed Activities Missing from History App.
    Fixed Activity Alerts Being Blocked when Device Locked.
    Fixed AirPods Skipping Music Tracks.
    Fixed Altitude Acclimation Chart Showing Wrong Elevation.
    Fixed Altitude Acclimation Glance Units.
    Fixed Arabic Characters on Keyboard.
    Fixed Audio Prompt not reporting correct Pace value.
    Fixed Average HR Text Truncation in Indoor Climb.
    Fixed Bouldering and Indoor Climb Activities to Show Correct Data Pages.
    Fixed Cardio Workout Page Transitions.
    Fixed CIQ Watch Faces Displaying Sensitive Data when Device is Locked.
    Fixed Color Invert when Resting in Strength Activity.
    Fixed Distance-Only Target Data Showing Time Ahead/Behind.
    Fixed Duplicate Saved Locations When Selecting Point on Map.
    Fixed Empty Map Covering Last Sport Text.
    Fixed Final Point Acquisition Failure Handling in Expedition Mode.
    Fixed Find My Watch Feature Being Blocked when Device Locked.
    Fixed Fish Activity Saved Location Icon.
    Fixed Inconsistent Touch Lock Behavior.
    Fixed Infinite Side Menu Bug.
    Fixed issue where calls could not be answered/declined via touch.
    Fixed issue where Find My Watch wasn't playing tones.
    Fixed issue where indoor walk could not be opened from voice commands.
    Fixed issue with extra lines around watch face hands on Deep Sea watch face.
    Fixed issue with golf plays like icons on MIP devices.
    Fixed issue with the average skin temperature feature on Tactix 8.
    Fixed Lap Alert/Lap Summary Screen Not Showing During DSW.
    Fixed Layout for Sensor Multi-Components List.
    Fixed Manual Watch Time in Regatta Timer.
    Fixed Map Layer Toggle Issue in an Activity.
    Fixed Map Track Color Setting not Applying to All Map Layers.
    Fixed Map-Only Touch Setting.
    Fixed Missing Data Page Labels for Sail Race Regatta Timer.
    Fixed Missing Sail Expedition Page.
    Fixed Navigation Alerts Getting Blocked when Navigating to Waypoints.
    Fixed Navigation Route Being Displayed after Navigation Dismissed.
    Fixed Navigation Running in Incompatible Activities after Change Sport.
    Fixed not being able to check for updates over WiFi when battery saver is enabled.
    Fixed Notification Timeout Setting Syncing Incorrectly.
    Fixed Palm Touches Accidentally Closing Morning Report.
    Fixed Passcode Blocking Wi-Fi Sync Pages.
    Fixed Passcode Handling in the Phone App.
    Fixed Pencil Icon Touch Behavior in Watch Face Editor.
    Fixed Pool Swim Pace Alerts not Muting.
    Fixed possible crash when syncing with Garmin Connect Mobile.
    Fixed possible crash when using WiFi.
    Fixed possible device lockup when changing passcode.
    Fixed possible issue where "Red" was translated as "Green" in flashlight app.
    Fixed possible issue where editing a workout with audio notes would not have audio notes after syncing with Garmin Connect.
    Fixed possible issue where TracBack option wasn't an available routing option.
    Fixed Potential Crash in Strength Activity.
    Fixed Potential Crash on Course Details Page.
    Fixed Potential Crash on End of Fishing Timer.
    Fixed Potential Crash when Navigating.
    Fixed Potential Crash when Trying to Accept Calibration Offset Value.
    Fixed potential issue causing average and maximum depths to be missing from the dive summary.
    Fixed Potential Out of Memory Issue on the Map Page.
    Fixed potential shutdown overnight.
    Fixed Power Related Audio Prompts Announced When Paired Power Meter is Not Connected.
    Fixed PulseOx Value in Glance.
    Fixed Regatta Timer Countdown Audio.
    Fixed Scaling on Activity Summary Cycling Power Graph.
    Fixed Segment Approaching Notification Blocking Activity Pausing.
    Fixed Sensor Calibration Failure Infinite Loop.
    Fixed Start Key Shortcut Being Changed After Using Dial Pad.
    Fixed Tide Alerts Ignoring Do Not Disturb Setting.
    Fixed Tides App Showing Empty Location Names.
    Fixed Timer Not Updating on Watch Face.
    Fixed Touch Screen Editing Data Fields when Timer Running.
    Fixed Trolling Motor Exit Through Hotkey.
    Fixed Watchface Data Accessibility when Device Locked.
    Fixed Watchface Shortcut Misbehaving in an Activity.
    Fixed Water Ejection Starting Before Activity is Complete.
    Fixed Workout Step Details Text Truncation.
    Improved DSW Presentation in the Calendar App.
    Improved Garmin Coach design on race day.
    Updated Body Battery Summary Graph to Show 24 Hours of Data.

  • 0 8 days ago in reply to RandoCro

    Non serve riproporre le modifiche di registro dell'aggiornamento nella chat, sono già presenti e facilmente consultabili nel forum. 

  • 0 7 days ago

    Thanks for the feedback.
    Yes, I'm familiar with the list of firmware changes.
    However, that doesn't help me if the watch becomes unusable for other reasons afterwards, or difficult to operate.

  • 0 7 days ago in reply to Rianor

    I'm with you. I'm holding tight on 13.35. it has its issues, but I don't want a watch that is sluggish. I saw taht with my Fenix 8 out of the box (FW10) and was ready to return it until FW13 brought it up to an acceptable speed. (I bought mine a couple months ago)

    I'm hoping they figure this lag out and also bring back the battery saver mode for the sleep focus. those are two things keeping me from upgrading.

  • 0 7 days ago in reply to Rianor

    Added featureds are nice, fixed bugs are good, but new bugs are brought as well with the changes in the code(it's the normal and somewhat inevitable process which can only be minimized).

    The watch is still useable, and the bugs I'm facing with are mostly non-resolved and were present in version 13...

    What I really dislike about 15.31 and would advise anyone who care about this feature to hold off from the upgrade and actually say to Garmin that they want the feature back is ability for watch to turn off automatically connectivity during sleep to conserve the battery and stop the watch from trying to find your mobile. Not sure if many others  put the mobile offline at night but I do. This was a unique feature at the time for Garmin watches but suddenly they decided to make it go...

    You can read more about this in here: https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/fenix-8-series/fenix-8-family-enduro-3-fenix-e---public-beta-reports/i/public-beta-15-xx/downgrade-battery-saver-turn-on-off-option-removed-from-sleep-score-sleep-coach-settings-page

    But generally unless you care about some specific feature which was listed or bug, and actually have doubts, then I'd recommend to wait for another iteration, in my opinion this particular version could be skipped without much remorse.

  • 0 7 days ago in reply to sensovision

    ah, and one more thing, in the past issues with Race Calendar was very minor for me, at the moment they suddenly huge and reset to factory settings didn't help. So if you care for this functionality, don't hurry until fix is found.

  • 0 7 days ago in reply to sensovision

    Very well said!

    I’ve made my decision and will stick with FW 13.35. I don’t currently need the new features.

    I have no prior experience with Garmin—this is my first watch. I hope the update will eventually come, once everything is working properly. How was it with previous models? After each release, were there always lots of bugs at first, and eventually things got better?

    It’s really taking the joy out of the watch for me. I’ve already spent so many hours with support, made pictures, videos, and documentation—all in the hope of helping improve the product. Sure, maybe others are doing the same, and I could just sit back and wait.

    In general, I’ve found support to be friendly and helpful. My experience hasn’t been as bad as what you often read in the forums. I just think the U.S. support is much better than in Europe.

    What worries me is that so many issues have been communicated for a long time, but nothing seems to change. It feels like they’re not listening—or they just don’t care. It would really frustrate me if all my efforts end up in the trash and never reach the technical team.

    I’ve often thought about sending the watch back, but I never did—because I still have hope.