Hi everyone,
I wanted to start this thread because I (and many others) have been experiencing major issues with the navigation system on the Garmin Fenix 8. After months of frustration, I have decided to explore my rights under EU consumer law to request a refund due to lack of conformity. If you're facing similar problems, this post should help you understand your legal rights and how to proceed.
The Problem: Faulty Navigation on the Fenix 8
Many users (myself included) have reported that navigation on the Fenix 8 simply doesn’t work as advertised. Here are the key issues:
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The biggest problem with navigation on the Fenix 8 is that calculating a route takes an extremely long time—or fails altogether. Here’s what I and many other users have observed:
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Route calculation is extremely slow:
- A short route (25–30 km) can take 15–20 minutes to calculate.
- Longer routes may take even longer—or fail entirely.
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Sometimes, the watch never completes the calculation:
- It gets stuck on “Calculating...” indefinitely.
- The only way to proceed is to cancel the route.
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Navigation is one of the Fenix 8’s key selling points, and yet it’s currently unusable for real-world applications. A sports/outdoor watch should not take longer to calculate a route than the time it takes to complete the actual activity!
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Considering navigation is one of the core advertised features of the Fenix 8, these problems constitute a significant defect.
Your Legal Rights Under EU Consumer Protection Laws
If you bought your Fenix 8 in the EU, you are protected by the Sale of Goods Directive (Directive (EU) 2019/771). This law guarantees that products must be fit for purpose and perform as advertised. If they don’t, you have the right to a repair, replacement, or refund.
Key Points of the Law:
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Two-Year Guarantee:
- Retailers must provide a minimum two-year legal guarantee from the date of purchase.
- This applies regardless of Garmin’s own warranty terms.
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Lack of Conformity:
- If the product doesn’t work as expected or as advertised, it is considered to be non-conforming.
- Since navigation is a core feature of the Fenix 8, these issues qualify as a lack of conformity.
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Burden of Proof:
- First 12 months: The law assumes the defect was present at the time of purchase, unless the seller proves otherwise.
- After 12 months: You may need to prove that the defect was not caused by misuse. However, since many users are reporting this issue, it is clear that this is a widespread defect and not an isolated case.
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Your Rights to a Refund:
- You can first request a repair or replacement.
- If the seller cannot fix the issue in a reasonable time, you are entitled to a full refund.
How to Request a Refund from Garmin or the Retailer
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Contact the Seller (not Garmin directly)
- Under EU law, your contract is with the retailer that sold you the device, not the manufacturer.
- If you bought directly from Garmin, you should contact their customer service and reference the EU Sale of Goods Directive.
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Explain the Issue Clearly
- Mention that navigation is a key advertised feature, and since it doesn’t work properly, the product is not fit for purpose.
- You can reference the Garmin product page or user manual, where navigation is listed as a main function.
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Request a Solution
- You can ask for a repair or replacement, but if they cannot guarantee a fix within a reasonable time, you have the right to a full refund.
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If They Refuse
- If the seller refuses your request, you can escalate the case by contacting your country’s consumer protection agency.
- You can also file a complaint with the European Consumer Centre (ECC) for assistance.
Final Thoughts – Should You Keep the Fenix 8?
If navigation is important to you, and Garmin has not provided a fix, you should not be forced to keep a defective device. Since this issue appears to affect all Fenix 8 models, a replacement unit may not solve the problem.
If you’re facing similar issues, don’t hesitate to exercise your consumer rights. Let’s hold Garmin accountable for delivering a product that meets expectations!