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Garmin tempe sensor discontinued! Alternatives? Perhaps Ruuvi sensor?! Come on Garmin, give us the Tempe sensor back!!!

Volker
5 months ago

Because Garmin unfortunately discontinued the Garmin tempe sensor (bad move, Garmin!), I looked around what maybe could replace the tempe sensor. I stumpled about the Ruuvi Sensor (the sensor is using an bt connection), which is available with different functionalities (2in1 (temperature, motion), 3in1 (temperature, humidity, motion), 4in1 (temperature, humidity, pressure, motion): Ruuvi - Ruuvi and I found a widget from a iq developer for serveral Garmin devices: Connect IQ Store | Watch Faces and Apps | Garmin

In theorie the widget/app (not availabe to add to the widget list) should look like this on the wearables:

 

but it looks like this on my F8xAmoled:

I have already written to the developer, but there are some comments and this issue seems to exists longer (?). Although it was only recently added for use in the F8 series. He will try to fix it with the next build. Update (fixed): forums.garmin.com/.../1875256

The developer has provided the code, maybe someone can develop something, maybe even a data field (with all the data)?

The Ruuvi sensor is a real beast compared to the Tempe sensor and has 36 grams (Tempe about 9 grams)- but for attaching at a backpack, it would be ok for me. 


You have your own little personal weather station with you (if it would be displayed properly on the Garmin wearables).
Ruuvi has its own app for the iPhone, where you can even set alarm areas for the various sensor functions.
   
So I will use it while hiking connected to my Iphone (I have 2 Garmintempe sensor left for my wearables). The Ruuvi seems to be intended for stationary mounting (two screws for mounting are included), but I will give it a try while doing a hike etc. Why do they make the sensor cover also black? I have paid € 53 for the 4in1.
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Btw: Temperatur accuracy:
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Ruuvi : absolute accuracy ±0,1 °C, output resolution 0,01 °C (see specs in Ruuvi link above).
Garmin Tempe: within 1 to 2 degrees (https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?
faq=v8WiyDSY2w1VAkIf20sos9#:~:text=While%20the%20observed%20accuracy%20of,which%20it%20may%20be%20compared.)
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For clarification: the Ruuvi sensor values aren’t integrated into the activity files. Therefore I think we need a iq data field with appropriate programming.
  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Data
    Data said:
    they used the same mold and material as for most foot pods and the Chirp

    Sure, but my question included Stryd (unique form, both the sensor and the clip, so it is not a question of economies of scale) and Ruuvi. And also my mini weather station semsors (temp and humidity) are  with black cases.

    So cheap consumer sensors must be in black.

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Data

    *After* ordering the 40 euro Tempe, I opened the broken one, cleaned it (it had water damage) with alcohol and a toothbrush and it is working again. It turned out ot was too easy to open, the top was not sealed entirely.

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Data

    Well done.

    And congrats for the market timing. :-) I mean for achieving a price of 40 in a bullish market.

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Tisztul_A_Visztula

    Chances are they don't actually have it. Todays webshops are often so inaccurate showing the stock. Hope they will ship it!

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Data

    Having seen your potential success just for fun I also made a check.


    I found a Latvian webshop where the price was euro 39.99. But  the whole ordering process was strange, because first I should have paid for the sensor and the shipping before giving address details. Since I am  Hungary based there is no way that their shipping cost would have been the same of 2-3 euros.

    And although I made a thorough check of the local webshops a couple of months ago and found nil Tempe, now I found one where it costs HUF 15900 equalling to EUR 38.40.  No need to pay in advance and there is an option of physical collection within 20 km.

    Race has started….. :-)

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Tisztul_A_Visztula
    Tisztul_A_Visztula said:
    So cheap consumer sensors must be in black.

    Funny! Having checked Ruuvi’s all products I see Volker bought a RuuviTag Pro (black housing) while there is a cheaper RuuviTag (white housing).

    And it is how Ruuvi sees it:

    “The RuuviTag Pro is a more rugged version of the RuuviTag. Both share the same circuit board design and operating principle. The RuuviTag Pro features a more accurate temperature sensor, a more durable enclosure, improved mounting options, and a wider operating temperature range battery.”

    So they think black housing is not worse than white housing, no extra negative impact to  the temperature accuracy.

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Tisztul_A_Visztula

    I have here 1-2 real shops at my living area which are selling also some Garmin stuff. I will visit them to have a look if there is perhaps a Tempe sensors left laying around. 

    Come on, Garmin. Give us back the Tempe sensor! 

  • 0 5 months ago in reply to Data
    Data said:
    I experimented a lot with paper sunshades, mounting under a cap visor,

    I spent so much time with the visor way and ruined a couple of caps and standalone visors that I dont feel experimenting more. I mean using the visor as a shield.

    But having read your similar adventures I got some impetus and made some search in a basement drawer full with my secret gadgets and found the prototype of a plastic shield.

    It has two layers made from a smaller size (of 50ml) plastic cream jar and a bigger (of 100ml) plastic cream jar bought in a pharmacy.

    I am sure that it is a good way to apply more layers and creating shaded channels for airflow, but I guess I found not the best material.

    I mean I should have found the material which insulates heat the most. And plastic is not the right choice, I guess. Anyway I put some grey insulator inside, which I normally bought to envelope a heat exchanger.

    Do you think that a very thick white paper is the best material for a sunshade? If not what would be the best? I feel some new motivation to manufacture a Tempe shield ver 2.0.