What does Fenix 8 / Tactix 8 Need To Have To Make You Upgrade?

I have multiples of both, Tactix 7 Pro Balistics, Tactix 7 AMOLED, Tactix Delta, Fenix 7x Pro Sapphire Solar, Epix 7 Gen 2 Sapphire. 

I just would like both AMOLED and solar in one watch. I mean I guess the solar isn’t that important  but if it gives a couple extra days in AMOLED I’d buy it too. 

I’ve personally find that the AMOLED displays are better all around, in bright light or dark. The MiP display lacks resolution and color depth. 
I’ve used the tactix AMOLED is SE Asia in bright sun and it still looks better than any MiP screen on any of mine. It’s also easier to read the ballistics tables like target and range on the AMOLED due to the better resolution. 

I agree on AMOLED. I have tactix in AMOLED and in MiP and even in the brightest light the AMOLED out performs the MiP screen. Also the battery life seems pretty great on the AMOLED, I have some power saving, like gesture, and colorshift sleep mode, and I’m getting 33 days to warning (1 day). It’s pretty amazing. 

I mean if solar can boost that, awesome. If it degrades the screen, I’ll live without it. 
I still think more storage would be nice. 

I guess it all depends on use cases. On a bike handlebar, having a AMOLED being almost always off is pointless. Also, while cross country skiing, turning your wrist with a pole in your hand often do not turn on the screen so you try again and again until the display finally decides to turn on. With a MiP, that's not an issue, the display is always on. Plus, on a bright sun day with all the snow reflecting that sun in your face, a AMOLED is hard to see, at least, my Venu and Venu2 were hard to see. My VA3 and VA HR weren't. These are my main two activities.

Garmin needs to ditch solar on watches. Solar creates an inferior watch with LESS battery life than non-Solar (for normal usage). How can I make this counter intuitive claim? Let's compare some of Garmin's latest watches:

• EPIX Pro 51mm = 51x51x15.0 case = 31 days battery
• Fenix 7X Pro Solar = 51x51x14.9 mm = 28 days (37 days with 3 hrs/day outside in 50K lux conditions)
• Enduro Non Solar = 51x51x15.6 case = 34 days battery

Note that EPIX Pro 51mm has more battery life than the Fenix 7X Pro Solar. Why is that? The solar panel adds extra thickness in the display which means a blurier display AND a smaller battery (vs the non-solar). EPIX does not have that extra thickness so the same case thickness can hold a larger battery. Solar therefore imposes:

• Stupid 2mm blank ring between active display and bezel ... just make the display larger (in same case size)
• Few people consistently get 3 hrs/day @ 50K lux exposure, so real world solar gains are probably half of Garmin's spec
• Reduced size battery .. the Fenix 7X (non solar) could have the Enduro battery and get 34 days 
• Noticeably blurier display (because of power glass layer)

Longer battery life! And to offer the watches that have longer battery life in the pretty/more feminine colour ways. I want to be able to get a rose gold/ white banded Garmin Fenix 8 with 60+ hours of battery life. I don’t want the good battery life reserved for the rugged looking watches. I want function, and pretty aesthetics. I want a watch I can wear all the time but has all the functions I need for my active lifestyle and running ultras.

thanks! 

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