New Stamina feature : opinions thread

Kind of, yes :)
- My o2 uptake into the muscles tends to be too low. Thus brain to heart: beat faster, muscles are complaining! So while I have half realistic hr zones from an official test they are moot for running as I'm always in the tempo/threshold range, even during very slow runs. HR zones for cycling work though as it's a lot easier for me for not having to lift up my feet, which is one of my biggest handicaps.

So lets see what happens. I'm sure I'll get garbage data out of it, but how garbage? We'll see

C.sco said:

If you don't want to use it because you think it's redundant, then don't use it. Garmin gives us the ability to customize our activity datascreens for a reason.

The problem is dat Garmin makes watches more expensive every iteration by adding features that are not very useful. In my opinion, that is. And I respect everyone who thinks it is worth the money. 

But I hope I might question certain choices garmin makes. 

I'm confident that the Fenix 7 would have cost exactly the same with or without the Stamina feature. It's a relatively minor addition, compared to the slew of hardware upgrades.

In any case, the whole point of the Fenix product line is that it is supposed to be the flagship watch that has nearly everything. Nobody expects anyone to actually use every single feature, the goal is to give everyone every possible feature and let them decide which ones they do and don't want to use. If you want a watch with fewer available features, there are a lot of less expensive ones to pick from.

There are lots of features on the Fenix that I don't use - music, for example, is something that I'll never use. There are also like 30 activity profiles that I'll never use. It just comes with the territory, when you buy the watch that "has it all".

If Garmin made a watch for every single person's needs, which has every feature they want AND none of the features they don't want, there would literally be like 50,000 different product SKUs.

may be you need to understand the following :

- the price of WHATEVER good you are buying which is made by a big company, NEARLY does not reflect the price of building it, or the investments made to build it.

- the usual cost price of goods, is about 12% (highest range) compared to the price you are paying for it.

- marketing is usually having a bigger cost than the device itself....

so features, r&d, etc, hardware, are only used to determine the market position (price braket), and the building price, labor, marketing, etc, only marginally play a role in this.

with that said, it's presented as a luxury watch, with all gimmicks we are waiting for (ie, not everything but everyone, but everyone will find 1 or 2 features that try to "justify" for the price). It's well made, we buy it.

Using a feature or not, is not wasting, if you have one or 2 that make you buy it, then fine ;)

hope that helps a bit to see the industrial world with a different eye, it's because we are willing to pay that much, that it cost this price ;)

there is a few exception to see, like consoles for gamming, because you'll then pay for games.... same for printers, you'll buy ink at a premium.... but not for a watch indeed !

How did you add "Running Power (HRM-PRO) and Performance Condition" fields? I have HRO-Pro, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks

So I tested the stamina feature. My body being my body being always unreliable I got a surprisingly low HR today. Started at stamina 100% and ended at 39%. Not sure what it means,  but today I could potentially have run a tiny bit more. If we assume a linear decrease then I could theoretically have run a bit more than 1/3 more. Interesting. Based on how I feel I would say that might have been right, with a few shot blocks as my energy supply is rubbish. So far so not so bad!

Running power isn't a native datafield, you have to install it from the ConnectIQ Store.

I think the already known data field "Performance Condition" can make a similar diagnosis like the new Stamina.
I have long enabled this data field on my Fenix 6 and can now interpret the value very well.
I even suspect that there are great similarities here only the information is somewhat more detailed (in % and distance) instead of only values between -20 and +20.

pear235 said:

add "Running Power (HRM-PRO) and Performance Condition" fields?

The Performance Condition is a native data field under the "Other" category.  Running Power is a CIQ data field.  You'll have to first download one of the Garmin Running Power data fields from the Connect IQ store.  Then add the data field to a data screen.  Once you have the data field loaded, you will get the Running Power graph in GC.