Just my opinion:Coros is the best thing that happened to Garmin

Thomas Edison once said, "Continued innovation is the best way to beat competition."

While I think the new Coros watch might serve as a "wake up call" to Garmin that the competition has their sights set squarely on Garmin's flagship watches, I think Garmin still has some time before they really need to be concerned about it.

The new Coros watch is very much "Fenix-like", and even offers a couple features the Fenix doesn't (yet). But the features that it shares with the Fenix are, in my opinion, poorly implemented and not a direct threat to the Fenix. Even for those who think Garmin implemented the features poorly, Coros implemented them MORE poorly. Their offline maps, for example, do not offer ANY sort of route navigation functionality. It is merely a digital "paper" map that you can look at, with a very basic breadcrumb trail. Also as others noted, it lacks Ant+, but even worse than that, it limits BT to only ONE connection at a time - and according to DCR, this is a HARD limit, meaning it will never allow more than 1 connection at a time, even with future firmware updates. That limitation is a dealbreaker for myself and many others.

And above all, the new Coros watch is not set at a competitive price, at the same MSRP as you can buy a Fenix 6 Pro for nowadays.

Still, this means Garmin really needs to come out with something innovative for their next watch, to remain as far ahead of the curve as possible, as Coros has demonstrated that the delta between Garmin and "everyone else" is closing.

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One thing Garmin could learn from Coros is that a satellite tool screen as Fenix/Fenix 2 had, and Coros now has, is totally awesome and worth bringing back! In color, please.

Yes, please!! I've been begging for this for years

Dr Phil said:

It could be argued that the biggest competitor to Garmin is Garmin. The product range and choices are overwhelming with a tremendous amount of overlap. 

Definitely agree. Garmin has way too many SKU's. The Fenix 6 line, alone, has something like 24 different SKU's. Add in the Tactix, Quatix, Enduro, etc and they probably have 50+ SKU's for that single watch architecture. Seems like it would not only benefit the consumer to reduce the SKU's (by making it less confusing to pick the right product) but it seems like it would also help their bottom line. Seems like it should be more profitable to sell 1000 watches of the same SKU, than 50 watches each of 20 different SKU's.

Not suggesting there should only be 1 single Fenix 6 SKU, but 50+ seems excessive. I'm sure they could reduce it to maybe 10 without really losing any buyers.

But dual gps.

Seriously, no ANT+ *and* only one BT connection? That is a pretty epic fail. So either a Smartphone *or* an HR strap?

I guess that dual GPS hype will soon blow over when people realise that it uses 40 percent more energy.

Personally, I would appreciate having the option to be able to use dual-band GPS when I want to, even at a 40% (or 60% or 80% or whatever) increase in battery drain. Most of the time I could leave it in single GPS mode, and only turn dual GPS on when (for whatever reason) I decide that more precise GPS tracks are critical to me. It would be nice having the option to decide which is best to use for a given scenario, rather than having the watch manufacturer make that decision for me (by omission). Kind of like how Garmin decided to remove maps entirely on the Enduro "because maps drain the battery faster" - sure, maps do drain the battery faster, but that doesn't mean I never want the ability to use maps. I mean, screen backlight and OHR sensor drain the battery faster, too, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to be available anyways; let ME decide if I want to turn them off to save battery.

I think for the price of the Enduro, not having maps is kind of miss.

I agree, and even DCR has also voiced confusion and disappointment about their decision to completely delete map functionality off the watch. I think an Enduro with Maps would have been a big hit in the marketplace.

Ɛpsilon said:

have Router on the Mac

Not heard of this one and can't find it in a quick search. Still looking for that good mapping program for the Mac.