I'M OUT

Enjoy it. I got the Ultra 3 last Friday on release day. Very very accurate HR measurements during training.

Indianwin said:

Enjoy it. I got the Ultra 3 last Friday on release day. Very very accurate HR measurements during training.

Perhaps we should start an AWU tread.

Very happy with the AWU for day to day use. Not perfect yet but almost. I still use my Garmin during runs as I want DSW based on current training status, LTH, race predictor and continue to follow my Garmin VO2max estimation. I do not have an alternative to all that stuff with Apple.

If Garmin offered decent (aka not paid) LTE/satellite coverage and Apple's health metrics (passive Afib/hypertension) I would probably wear Garmin 24/7.   

There is a solid reason for why Epix won't get some of those updates. It's because Garmin from a simplicity standpoint moved to a unified code base from the Forerunner. Epix Pro & F7 Pro were the last to use the Fenix code based. Starting with the 8/E was the change. My pal who works at Garmin says it's a smart move. Solid video about it. www.youtube.com/watch

This is not the "real" explanation, FRx65/x55 received some of the "new F8" features when F7/E7 didn't. And Fenix 7 Series include standard and Pro models withtout distinction, software features are available on all models running the same OS.

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Code base is shared across all product lines since years (Fenix, Forerunner, Venu, Edge, etc.), if you look at the changelog for bugfix, you can easily find that bugs are most of the same.

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As said multiple time Fenix E which is an Epix 2 standard model rebranded, is running the same System version like Fenix 8.

It's a deliberate Garmin's choice to stop development on these Series (F7 and FRx65/x55) even if the hardware is the same.

If Garmin would like to improve it's Software Quality then One Operating System for all Series would be the best choice. And if they want to satisfied customers, only provide the choice to stay on the old software only for bugfix, and be able to jump into the One OS experience for those that would like.

The One OS change is on the way, with FRx70 and Venu/VivoActive sharing the same OS now. But this left a huge part of the customers on the sideway with old Series F7 FRx65/x55. 

TBH I understand that those watches don't get new features anymore. But they should at the very least go bug hunting and make the software rock stable. At the end you buy the watch for what it is not for what it might become (with feature updates).

They are still big fixing and updating the software. They just aren't offering some of the newer features of the new models. My Epix Pro 2 is far more stable than the Garmin 970 as Garmin are chucking too many features in these watches now, most which are only gimmicks. 

Which features are a gimmick? 

Most of the new ones except those linked to new hardware which the previous watches don't have anyway. A lot of the newer metrics coming along are meaningless. 

I don't think their watch is faulty; I see similar problems. My watch *sometimes* records naps correctly. Other times, it 1. Instead records it as normal sleep and overwrites the sleep data it had already recorded for the day, or 2. Doesn't record it at all.

Also, the recently-added O2 capability only records data during sleep around 50% of the time.

I'm going to be pretty disappointed if Garmin doesn't push an update to fix these problems.