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Hill score with treadmill exercise

ZF
over 1 year ago

Hi.

i have a question: does running at a treadmill with a % of incline and updating the Total Ascent with the climbed value at the Garmin Connect app exercise session, will have an impact at the Hill Score metric?

Regards,

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    No. Edits after the activity was finished are not recognized. 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to AgentMax

    But I cannot set the ascent before finishing the activity , it’s just not possible to add those values.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to ZF

    That's because you didn't actually climb any hills...

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to ZF

    Hill score is an outdoor only metric. 

    The watch also does not support an incline setting.

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    The treadmill activity has no way of knowing how much you "climbed", or what your rate of ascent was. If you edit the activity later, it will not be recognized by the watch - but even if it was, it still couldn't generate a hill score because it has no way of knowing whether your incline was the same from start to finish, or if it changed several times. Even if you use something like NPE Runn to record realtime ascent/incline data to your FIT file, Garmin still doesn't utilize it.

    And as Gaijin pointed out, the fact that you're not actually climbing anything (it's just simulated climbing) complicates things even further. What you could "climb" on the treadmill is not representative of what you could climb on real terrain. So Garmin (smartly, in my opinion) does not use treadmill workouts to generate hill scores.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to C.sco

    I understand your point… but for example if you do an indoor cycling activity and register an ascent after the activity is finished, that amount will count towards the monthly ascent challenge (if you have signed up for it)…. And the indoor bike didn’t climbed any hill or there’s no way to know how much you climbed.

    on the other hand, the treadmill can tell you the total climb and the average incline rate… 

    at the end it is what it is… but for me a little inconsistent.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to ZF

    That elevation for an indoor ride is provided by a 3rd party source and not by the trainer. If I use the data direct from the trainer, no elevation is recorded.

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    Would be interesting if the "Callibrate & Save" option included incline as an input too.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to ZF

    A monthly ascent challenge is a bit different than a hill score though. Counting the estimated total number of feet you've ascended (either in reality or in simulation) over a month is a lot easier, and less consequential if it's wrong, than calculating your ability to climb a hill (hill score) using data that didn't actually come from climbing a hill. I could be wrong, but I don't think using an indoor trainer would generate any sort of bicycle hill score either, even with simulated "ascent" information recorded to the activity.