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11.25: (Fake) Daytime nap replaces good night sleep data and tanks scores for previous couple of days. No way to correct after the fact.

Etupes25
over 2 years ago

Given the release notes, I was hoping that the latest firmware would fix the problem of daytime nap replacing the sleep of the previous night.

It didn't.

Today, i sat working at the computer for a few hours. I checked the watch and it was showing me sleeping. I stopped the fake sleep and got 2h35mn of sleep recorded.

I synced the watch with GCM and I got this on the iPhone

So, I synced again, went to GCM Web and got this:

Great, I thought, the data is still there.

But nope, the data is in no-man's land. I tried to edit a bit the GWM web data, but no change is reflected either on GCM or on the watch.

I still have a 0 sleep score on the watch, and the training readiness is out.

So, it is clear to me like the 2 items allegedly fixed in the 11.25 do not address my/this issue. Too bad. Back to not wearing the watch outside of activities.

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  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to SETM

    Since they're on release version 11.25 now, you'll have to open another thread for the next alpha/beta version.
    I wish they'd update the bug report section somehow. Confused

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to Etupes25
    Etupes25 said:
    I am using the OSCAR software to track all the sleep apnea settings and events.

    All that counts is your number of apnea per hour - as long as under 14 you are golden (ideally the lower the better) - as you should then be getting deep sleep.

    I use my sleep tracking to check for 3 things; stress load during the night - as this impacts on day avg stress levels and all of these factor heavily in terms of training readiness; duration - shorter vs longer impacts on daily avg stress and all the other factors that stress feeds into, sleep scorre - if bad check my CPAP results as may mean that I have high apnea which is usually due to face mask loosening - so then need to adjust (particularly relevant post cleaning headgear as may not always be tight enough). If issue then also check restlness/awake as if really heavy may cause even a tight mask to slip and may be tight enough for general use.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to jaamgans
    jaamgans said:
    as long as under 14 you are golden (ideally the lower the better)

    As I said before, I think I got this process down. In my case, I was diagnosed with mild apnea, so I started at around 14 :-);

    I am down to less than 1 AHI these days and my sleep quality has subjectively improved enormously. I am down to one bathroom break per night instead of 4-6 which is an indirect validation of more deep sleep.

    Unfortunately, the watch is terrible at measuring wake time, so I am monitoring the sleep score.

    As of now, the sleep score has improved to mid 80's and above, from mid 70's prior to therapy.

    I am working towards controlling the AHI (which can mean more "aggressive" settings) and keeping/improving the sleep quality. The blue line is the corrected sleep score. The red line is the AHI for those days where the sleep score was above 65. I started therapy in July, so I have AHI numbers only since then of course.

    Still working on it because it is kind of a trade-off: the AHI number has to be examined to track the underlying types of apnea (obstructive, hypopnea, central, other) once flow limitations have been addressed.

    Again, all what I am asking for is the watch to work as designed and provide a reliable sleep score, instead of screwing it up with fake daytime naps override.

    The sleep score data is horrible without correction for bad/wrong/idiotic sleep scores: