Do watch faces scale up to resolution on Epix? Why no exclusive OLED Epix watch faces?

I love my new Epix 2.  Very disappointed to see no exclusive watch faces to take advantage of the beautiful display.  I noticed all watch faces are compatible with all fenix and Epix 2 watches.  I am curious if the watch faces scale accordingly to the watch's display?  The analog faces still seem pixely like it did on my Fenix.

  • Try that: https://apps.garmin.com/de-DE/apps/9d25f6ae-a5d1-486c-ad00-9102fd623721

    Its maybe only a flag. Exclusiove watchfaces can only from garmin, for a dev it make no sense to build one. Give them some time.

  • Agree 100% on third party developers.  I would have expected Garmin to have already developed such faces for launch of product.  Just seems short sighted to me

  • I'm sorry but what exactly are you disappointed about? Watchfaces use simple draw commands that natively scale with the display. If they use bitmaps, devs can provide different resolutions per device. Anti aliasing ist available and can be implemented for any device that supports it. 

    So if your watch face doesn't look nice, it is probably a problem with the dev not enabling it to do so. 

  • Maybe the resolution on the epix is not as high as I vision in my mind. First, it’s annoying when a manufacturer list screen resolution as 416 x 416. That’s not a resolution, that’s pixel size. Resolution is pixel density per inch so you need screen size to create ppi.  Looks like epix 2 is about 320 ppi on par with Apple watch of 326 ppi. The Apple Watch images seem so much smoother. I’m sure I don’t understand how graphics scale but you if you design a watch for a a resolution if 200 ppi for the fenix wouldn’t scaling up the image become less detailed?  You would create the same image but it would be smaller so you need to add more pixels for the same size line making it less detailed, right?  

    the watch screen is just fine. Just figured 320 ppi would create sharper watch faces. Don’t get my wrong they still look good, but I image watch faces  designed specifically for the epix screen resolution would look better

    wouldn’t mind more technical detail if I am miss understating how the scaling works. 

  • Not to speak for the OP, but I would also expect watchfaces with a bit more understated minimalist elegance and which look more like a real watchface (like Apple Watch’s Chronograph, Explorer, Simple, and Utility faces). I know it would take more battery but a sweep second hand would also be cool as an option. 

    I use the most minimalist of the built in analogue Epix watchfaces and that is close but the choices for hands look like childish renderings of watch hands and the always on / dim view looks weird without the center part to which the hands ‘attach’). And don’t get me started on the other stock faces, which are mostly gaudy and unrefined.

    Hexxer’s Geneva and the one you posted elsewhere are more in line aesthetically with what I would expect but are currently limited by the data fields made available by CIQ (e.g., access to Body Battery and Recovery Hours are in beta from what I hear) and potentially greater battery burn.

    Any updates on release of yours? As mentioned, I’d be happy to test!

  • I have not forgotten about you - I just integrated openweather because the Garmin weather was too inaccurate for my taste. I'll send you a PM once I feel it is ready to test but I have not a lot of time to develop right now. 

    I have to agree that a lot of ciq watchfaces that I tried seemed to be not optimised for the epix. Devs just bump up their project to support the epix and then that's it. But also, keep in mind that you need a 1k€ watch to actually test and design a watchface that gets the most out of the device. The device simulator on the pc is OK, but it is very different from how it actually looks on the amoled screen... 

  • First, it’s annoying when a manufacturer list screen resolution as 416 x 416. That’s not a resolution, that’s pixel size. Resolution is pixel density per inch so you need screen size to create ppi.  Looks like epix 2 is about 320 ppi on par with Apple watch of 326 ppi.

    Resolution is the number of pixels shown on screen. Common resolutions on modern monitors with 16:9 ratio are 1920x1080, 2560x1440 and 3840x2160. Garmin correct in their specifications saying the resolution is 416x416.

    PPI, or Pixels Per Inches, is a way to measure the density but is not the same as resolution. I doubt that a difference in 6 ppi is even noticeable. Number of colors, the possibility for a developer to make full use of the displays capabilities and the developers knowledge is more likely the factors that makes the difference.

  • Just a question. Have to use deepl to translate ;)

    Is it possible to build a moving second hand on the Epix? Or does, due to the background technology, only the second hand that jumps per second work? 

  • Not that I know of. the method to update the display is called every second. There are animations but I don't know how to use them. I think so far there's no possibility.