Sleep score curiosity

I'm not a big sleeper but i've got more than few 90+ score nights in the past few months and even during my best nights i have the latest factor always "bad"

Am i really moving so much or you need to be still for the whole night to get a decent score in that one? Or am i misunderstanding the meaning of restfulness?

The only time that i got a good score(more than good) was when i drank a little bit too much Smiley 

But in that case everything else was pretty bad Smiley

Just curious to see if i'm moving too much or if it's normal to have a bad score for the last factor.

edit.looking at the movement during the 2 nights i guess it's not related to the movement only as i moved more during the second example.

Thanks

  • In English that highlighted field is "Restlessness", if you click on "irrequietezza", you'll see a description that says (in English at least) - "Your goal is to have as few interruptions as possible while sleeping. Restless sleep will negatively affect your sleep score."

    What I notice on your sleep (and mine too) with a better Restlessness score, is there seems to be a decreased number of transitions between various sleep states. ie - in your restful sleep there's only 9 different coloured bars at the bottom, there's 27 sleep mode transitions in the restless sleep screenshot you've shared.

    I don't know for sure that thats a significant factor in how they quantify it, but it feels to me like rapid flipping between deep, light, waking, REM, throughout the night might well be considered 'restless', compared to a restful sleep where you're more 'calm' in terms of your varying sleep states across the entire sleep??

  • It could be because i have other 2 cases where i got a score a little bit better than "bad" and they have less stages.



    For sure it's not related to the physical movement as i was thinking. 

    Edit.

    Nevermind...the following ones are with the same score as the other 2 and they have a lot of transitions?

    Edit2. Same here...posting another one also to show the scores in English for easier understanding(little bit better than bad= fair Smiley)

  • The sleep analysis on the Epix is one of the worst on the market. The Fenix 6 is far superior to the Epix. Not to mention my wife's Versa 3.
    I have no idea what is going wrong again. Even my kid's 40€ Honorband alone seems to recognize sleep time better overall than the Epix.

    Dont forgett. Its a 900€ Device

  • That's not my experience.

    Can't really judge the different sleep stages, but after a month of 24/7 use of the Epix, I'd say the sleep score is pretty spot on with my perceived sleep quality.

  • Epix 


    Comparable Product ~150€


    Fenix 6 vs "Comparable product" are OK. It messured at the hand. But what you see in the images is what i messured last nights with a voilett Arm strap :D (Device from my wife)
    Im not sure why Firstbeat algorythm cant use ist as expected. 

  • Finally i got the update on the android app with the changes for the last score factor.
    They added also a good explanation on what is affecting the score.


  • Not so sure that restlessness makes up a major component of the score. I tend to find the main factors are: Stress, Deep, REM & Awake - if all of those are good to excellent your score will be good (or at least 3 out of the 4), however this can be brought down if duration is poor. If duration is at least fair (around 6hrs) you can still score in the 80%. Longer duration to get good/excellent to get higher than low 80s.

    Stress is the one major component where have to be scoring good/excellent to have a good score

  • I do find my sleep score overall interesting and a good representation of how I feel.

    If I look at March where I was in our mountain house (5000 ft / 1500 m elevation) then my sleep score had an average of 70, a max of 87 and a low of 32. I did find my sleep was not great and I would be restless/awake a fair amount. If I look at April when I was back at our main house (100 ft / 30 m elevation) then my sleep score had an average of 83, a max of 94 and a low of 69 and I am sleeping much better. 

    Elevation definitely has some impact on my sleep, but also during March I would have consumed a lot more alcohol as Apres Ski which also results in an impact to sleep. Now that ski season is over my alcohol intake is 1-2 beers a week. 

    Exercise load wise March and April are somewhat similar, a bit higher exercise load in April and a difference in sport (Skiing vs Running).

    Food wise April is healthier eating - more time and easier access to cook/make salads whereas March had some salad but also more oven food (pizza), pasta, red meet etc. Maybe due to getting older but I find eating red meat e.g. steak, definitely impacts my sleep quality.

    Overall my stress level is typically 15-22 for the day, as doesn't change much based on location.

  • The main topic was about the last factor that was a bit unclear, at least for me. Moreover, also during very good sleeps(90+) i had it always "bad" and wanted to know if it was common and what exactly was it about.
    Now that they updated how it's shown and added a good explanation about it's functionality it's ok Slight smile

     The other scores are definitely more important.

  • 2 months into using the watch.  The sleep tracking for “ME” with this device is horrid.  I wear my AW7 on my right arm and it’s sleep tracking seems spot on, and I usually physically more in tune with what the AW is recording.  The Epix is basically saying my sleep is so bad I shouldn’t drive to work.  Lol