Is the display clearly readable during swimming?
Is the swim activity able to understand which type of style I'm swimming without pressing lap button?
Is the display clearly readable during swimming?
Is the swim activity able to understand which type of style I'm swimming without pressing lap button?
Yes to both. The stoke names are auto detected but the type of stokes are only visible on Garmin Connect on the web. In practically every scenario the Epix is easier to read. Also, the watch calculates…
I didn't understand as I thought you were replyilng to a 2 year old post as to whether tis possible to see the strokes you have used; rather than - and I may have this wrong as I don't think you did…
Yes to both. The stoke names are auto detected but the type of stokes are only visible on Garmin Connect on the web. In practically every scenario the Epix is easier to read. Also, the watch calculates your SWOLF score for the workout. It will also calculate auto rest.
Thanks. With my F6 Pro solar I can't view different type of styles, it says "Freestyle" if I do 100% freestyle, but it says "mix" if I do 90% freestyle and 10% backstroke. To see different styles I have to push Lap button when I switch from freestyle to backstroke.
With my ooooold 150€ Polar I was able to have correct statistics without pressing buttons
Not sure I understand what you mean.
if you mix your style in a lap it will record it as mixed.
If you do a set and mix the set it will show it as mixed for that set on the connect app - on the web you have the option to explode the set where you can see the individual laps which will show the correct style (Garmin really need to update connect to allow this functionality).
If you set is all the one style then it will show it as that style on the connect app.
I do Side / Freestyle / *** and Back. The Epix is really better than my AW and my Form Swim goggles at detecting lengths and stroke type. I love swimming and swim about 120 lengths (3000 yards) about 4 times a week, or more.
I think, every Garmin has trouble detecting style, especially when you're doing exercises with extended arm movements. Especially in the case of crawl and backstroke. The solution is to work with hands with more full movements, similar to a circle. You have to practice it. First picture is after fitting style to garmin, second is my natural movement.
I don't swim backstroke, I don't mix styles and I don't swim 25m distances...
if you expand the mixed intervals it will show what you did for each lap. i.e. if 1 lap was freestyle, and 1 lap was breastroke the interval will show as mixed.
PS - if you look at the activity on the watch post activity you can see lap stroke - when in activity - go into menu - intervals - scroll down will list the stroke for each lap.
I'm trying to be kind...
I don't swim any style other than freestyle. What don't you understand?
Epic2 incorrectly counts the lengths of pools and counts e.g. 2x 25 instead of 1x50. Sometimes it counts the breaks incorrectly and adds the time to the total length. This machine is not working properly. Foreruner had convenient start/stop and lap buttons. Epix2.... I'm disappointed.
I didn't understand as I thought you were replyilng to a 2 year old post as to whether tis possible to see the strokes you have used; rather than - and I may have this wrong as I don't think you did a very good job a stating exactly what the issue is, so basing off your original post and your current post your issues are its a) not recognizing your stroke b) not correctly counting laps c) has wrong pool size and d) buttons don't work the way they do on your forerunner?
c) Pool lap size - if that is incorrect you need to set the correct pool length - this is user error. When you select pool swim as an activity - before you press start to start it, it should disable touch, and under the pool swim icon and pool swim description in very small text it should state pool size - if worng press menu button (left middle), scroll down to pool size setting and change to 50m. The watch doesn't detect pool size as no gps, plus gps could have issues with such short distances, and everyone stroke rate/length is differrent so any esimation using would be challenging to derive correct length. Note can set meters or yards.
d) Buttons - the garmin has 5 and you can use all 5 to start/stop and do lap. right top is start/stop button. Once activiated it will then disable touch. Lap button is still right bottom button unless you have changed that to something else.You will need to check your pool swim settings to see if auto-rest is on/off. If on it will auto detect when at rest and start rest counter and when move off automatically start a new set/interval. I have a major issue with it as I move around too much which can then trigger new sets / create lap count issues, especially if its triggered a new set and I use lap button too - this may be part of your lap count issue. Suggestion is try it but if like me you don't find it working disable it and use lap to start rest, and then lap to trigger next set/interval. i.e. just the same as on your forerunner (no change). As far as I am aware this is how it works for all 5 button garmin watches - so no change. Only change is possibly auto-rest which your previous FR may not have had messing up your button presses to set set/intervals.
a) Swim style - if you are swimming only freestyle and its recognizing different strokes then you may have an issue with your style. My swim sessions have always correctly detected freestyle, breaststroke and backstroke (don't do butterfly except for very occaisionaly as not great at it) or at least didn't on softtware version 13.22 and prior - haven't yet had a swim on latest version so can't confirm whether that is still the case on later versions.Note I have never had an issue with this on any of my garmins - correct style has always been very good. But from what I understand it looks like you may have resolved the issue by changing your style. The only time it gets it wrong for me is if I come across a slower swimmer in my lane, in which case i often end up breaking stroke/changing stroke - in which case yes I get mixed for that length and I get usually an additional lap. Understandable and part of Garmin FAQ around swimming distance inaccurate.
b) All I can say is wow. So your watch is set to 25m. You are swimming in a 50m pool, and its giving you 2 x 25m for each 50m length i.e. its automatically adjusting realising the time and stroke are out for the set pool distance. And you are complaining about this? Didn't even know it could do that - but great news for if/when I mess up and forget to set correct pool length (I swop around a bit between pools and some are 25m and some are 50m - haven't had an accident yet - but know its jsut around the corner). But great to know that in this case its at least getting the distance correct.
I'll try to explain it.
1. Until recently I used Foreruner 910XT. Results from 2 years ago refer to registration on this device.
2. I have been using EPIX 2 for several weeks.
Both are configured identically and I have an idea that there is nothing stopping me from taking them both to the swimming pool. It will be fun.
3. I described the operation of both devices, stating that after understanding what movement Foreruner recognizes correctly, I managed to achieve a measurement close to the actual result. Which means correctly detecting the style throughout the workout and most laps.
4. Now I use EPIC-2 and the old problems have come back - we can't get along.
c) Pool lap - is configured correctly. The length of the pool is 25meters, the touch screen is disabled.
d) Buttons - thank you for the tips, I haven't learned how to use the buttons yet, I use automatic modes. The buttons on the Epic-2 are not conveniently placed for me. I preferred Start/Stop and Lap on Foreruner. I will try.
a) Swimming style - Of course, you can always point out someone's mistakes. Garmin can't be wrong...
Or maybe instead of pointing out swimmers' mistakes, Garmin could implement machine learning algorithms and each watch could learn movements from its user? This is a programmatically trivial problem to solve...
b) Pool size...
"Długość basenu" means "pool size" ;-)
Fortunately, I no longer have a problem with slower swimmers ;-) Occasionally, I simply overtake some of them or wait until the distance between us is large enough that I won't have to slow down or change my style.
Either way, I'm going to have a lot of fun, let's see how the tests of the new and old models turn out. It'll be fun.
I will share the results.
May the force be with us ;-)