Pins removable or not?

So I really want an aftermarket hand made leather strap. 

Can I remove the pins? There seems to be some confusion. 

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  • These things are stuck to the extend a guy with pliers couldn't get them out. I don't think dental floss will do the trick ;)

  • Have they used glue? Surely they’re just spring loaded but without shoulders. If you’re referring to the guy in this post he used pliers to bend pin to pop it out he could have cut the pin and it would have fallen out. 

  • he could have cut the pin and it would have fallen out. 

    It was waaaaay simple to pry and pop them out. 1 second. To each their own. It worked for me.

  • That is not a genuine Seiko "Fat" springbar in your picture

    Well it was old as ... and just are really great. Let's call them just fat springbars then. :-D

  • Hi has anyone tried this trick to remove shoulderless springbars:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/McGhYZS_pM0?feature=share

    That's a good trick to know... if one doesn't have a proper springbar removal tool.

    Unfortunately, it does not work on the EPIX Gen2 springbars.

    The purpose of the dental floss is to gain purchase on the tip of the springbar and move it back into the barrel so it comes off the watch.  The problem with the EPIX springbars is there is not enough room between the watch lug and the springbar barrel to allow for any movement.  Here's a pic:

    Thanks for the tip, but it doesn't work (I just tried to make sure).

    HTH

  • Just a question of understanding: are the Epix pins really springboard pins? I thought springbar pins are always removable easily- or are there removable and non removable spring bar pins? Thanks

  • Just a question of understanding: are the Epix pins really springboard pins? I thought springbar pins are always removable easily- or are there removable and non removable spring bar pins? Thanks

    The EPIX bars appear to be normal flangeless springbars.  However, this type (and size) springbar would normally be installed on a watch that has drilled-through lugs - i.e. a lug hole that goes all the way through the lug - which would allow the springbar to be compressed from the outside of the lug.  This is the way the Instinct is designed, and how the Instinct springbars are removed.

    Our problem is the springbar hole on the lug of the EPIX is blind - not drilled though - and not accessible from the outside of the lug for easy removal.

    I haven't given up yet, however.

    HTH

  • Do we have any official word on warranty for this?

  • Ok, how have you cracked the pin? Cut in the middle with a pliers?

    Please read my posts before assuming anything.
    I have never cracked or cut anything and you can use a Bic pen's point for the same result, the pliers were just used to void any springbars flying in the room. And again the watch (my Fenix 6 was "stuck" with Instinct springbars I was not able to remove...) was not damaged in this operation repeated twice.
    I'm wearing it right now.

  • Please read my posts before assuming anything.

    I think it might be important to re-state what we have so far because there may be assumptions being made which are not based on facts in evidence.

     has shared with us how he was able to remove an Instinct 22mm springbar from his fenix 6.

    I'm not sure we can accurately project that this means the same technique would be successful in removing an EPIX 22mm springbar from an EPIX.

    1. Is the EPIX springbar the same as an Instinct springbar?  I'm not sure it is. In situ, it looks very similar, but until one is successfully removed, one cannot be certain they are the same.

    2. Are the lug holes, where the springbars fit into the lugs, on the watch the same on the fenix 6 and on the EPIX?  I'm not sure they are.  Until an EPIX springbar is successfully removed so the lug holes can be more closely examined, I'm not sure anyone can know for sure.

    This is why I am still proceeding with caution - neither of these assumptions can be known yet.

    So... until success is achieved in removing an EPIX springbar from an EPIX, all ideas are welcome.

    HTH