8.00 Update - What have Garmin done to 'improve' resting HR detection?

Hi folks,

So, since receiving the 8.00 update yesterday, the resting HR detection on my Fenix 5X has been completely off. I have no idea if it's simply broken, or whether Garmin are using a strange new algorithm to determine what it is.

For example, today my resting HR is showing 61, even though my heart rate has been consistently in the low 50s since getting to my desk, and as low as 43. The number isn't updating.

Is anyone else getting the same?
  • DeckardWill the only difference between all the users without problems and the users with problems: waring the watch overnight....
    i do wear it at night and (as some others) i am experiencing a slight improovment or RHR-reading.

    your watch takes the first readings after you put on your watch as your RHR, it seems to me this is the case even if you get lower readings during the day, there is no update of this first reading. if you dont want to wear the watch over night, maybe try to put on your watch during having a low HeartRate ?
  • @jupjap Thanks for the reply. However, the watch isn't just grabbing the first reading in the morning - it still updates later in the day, just that it now seems to be working on a much longer sample base than 60 seconds and coming out with results that must be taking activity (movement) into consideration.

    Garmin really need to inform us when they make changes to how averages are calculated. The fact that those (who aren't wearing the 5X to bed) are left guessing as to what Garmin have done doesn't seem right to me.
  • DeckardWill Can you not surmise what is happening during a daytime RHR calculation from looking at you daytime HR plot? Is you RHR higher than the lowest one minute daytime average. If so file a bug - either the documentation is wrong or the implementation is wrong.

    If I could change one thing is that I would prefer for purposes of RHR calculation for a day to run 5am -> 5am and NOT midnight to midnight. That way the displayed RHR on waking will unchanged.
  • Hi Subtleguru

    Yes, I can clearly demonstrate that the RHR no longer behaves as described. The description states 'the lowest one minute daytime average'. Today, I have the following averages for the following times:





    ...with my resting heart rate so far showing '54'.

    This has updated from 61 earlier in the day, so an average of something is still being taken - it's not just the day's first reading.

    But clearly it isn't reflecting the calculation as Garmin state.

    So yes, either their description of the calculation needs to be updated, or it's a bug.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    Is garmin working in a fix or are they just gonna leave it broken?
  • I usually love Garmin products, especially the fenix 5X, but I doubt if they scour this thread in search of fixing this issue. I'll keep my fingers crossed, though.
  • All I can suggest is that everyone experiencing this problem contacts Garmin to complain. I have already reported it.
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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    I'm experiencing similar RHR issues with 5S - RHR measured by fenix is way higher than min HR recorded. Moreover, despite the fact that I wear the device overnight, it looks like RHR is not calculated by taking an average during sleep - today in the morning it was 59, a while ago it decreased to 54...

    I think it's very unfair from Garmin to change the way that such an important parameter is being calculated without any notice...
  • The same happened on other watches - as mentioned in DCR's review, i am experiencing the same on my vivoactive 3, especially since the 3.30 firmware update.

    The stress-measurements are also running (abnormally) high since then (ca. 2 weeks). See https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into-sports/health-fitness/vivoactive-3-aa/1320677-stress-value-not-correctly-synced-calculated for the vivoactive 3 and https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into-sports/running/forerunner-935-aa/1312843-garmin-forerunner-935-increases-the-stress-level for the 935, which should be closer to the fenix 5.