All day stress always reports HIGH since update 7.60

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I know that the update was supposed to improve the reliability of the all day stress reading. However, for me it's done exactly the opposite. Since the update, my stress reading is always MEDIUM to HIGH (51 to 100) even when I'm sleeping! Is anyone else seeing this???
  • Wish I had thought to check here. Previously, stress scores used to drop out a lot during sleep, although the measurements tended to be low-ish and sometimes even rest. Since about January, whatever updates happened in that period, it has had almost no drop-out minutes, but the scores have been 50+ during sleep. And during the day, I regularly get 15 minutes (often, like, 15 individual minutes) of "rest" a day, and it yells at me that "you have almost no restful moments today. ..." At first, it really was picking up the flu for 8 days, and in fact, it was the stress score (even if it was just a coincidence) that had me reaching for the thermometer when I discovered the high fever. But it hasn't really gone back to pre-flu levels, after more than a month. I can't deny that I do have a lot of stress, so rather than question the Fenix, I'm in the middle of getting a whole set of lab/cardiology tests. (Not a reset issue, because I've done more than one reset in that period for other reasons.)
    Thanks, Garmin.
  • My stress values have certainly gone up after the update that "tweaked" Stress calculation - instead of having single-digit scores during sleep I now see values more around 20-ish and my entire "stress curve" moved up by approx 10 points. But the profile has not changed and I still see "rest" most of the days during the night. It's just more difficult to achieve rest during the day, even during the time I am truly resting.

    While the result is still in the ballpark I am wondering if Garmin is still tweaking the methodology behind the scenes.
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    I am seriously frustrated by their level of customer support. So far I have written three mails in two weeks, but I have received no response from their support team. Once I talked to their support over phone. However, no solution to my problem. I am kind of pissed by their lack of regard for customer issues.
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    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    All day stress has definately gone up for me as well. I was sick during the recent update so did not notice this at first but now that I've been well for awhile started to wonder why I am so stressed even during sleep. It's actually kind of funny that the other night night I had a really good and long sleep and the watch reported that I had been under stress all night. Felt really good that morning.. Well, there's other problems as well ????

    Good that I saw these discussions here because might have made wrong decisions concerning whether I should train or not. Feel perfectly fine though.

    Don't really understand what's happened here because by logic the watch records times between consecutive heart beats (hrv) and then calculates a stress score for the user instead of reporting an rmssd value, for example? Now this stress score, if I understand correctly, is calculated against a baseline that the watch creates for the user based on long-term date. Meaning that it's individual for each user to an extent. It also changes when data changes over time? Also, I'd assume that a reset would not really solve anything because of this. Did the algorithms for determining or analysing past data change so much or become more strict? Was there changes with the OHR or the Connect service? Well, anyways, hope this gets fixed / improved...

    I know that for me being sick before could have an effect on this as I could not exercise for two weeks, and hence surely lost fitness. This might affect my hrv and subsequently the stress score (which is based on my baseline hrv over long-term?). I've not been very stressed otherwise though as I've not been getting a lot of exercise or work done. I stayed in bed ????
  • I pay no attention to the stress score and widget anymore, it's useless since update 7.60. was working well before, recorded rest during sleep, and higher stress after workouts, then gradually comes back down.. it correlated week with what was going ono Then after 7.60 stress values climbed up for no reason to the point even during good sleep and rest it still displays med/high stress.

    And it's repeatable, you do a hard reset and for a couple of days is working fine and then gradually climbs back up in the following days, hard reset and again same behavior.

    From a daily score in the low 20's when it was working, to sustained values in the 40's, when it's not... with the same sleep patterns, same work days, same workouts, same everything.

    Wonder how many people that don't read the forum are being mislead by this ill working feature and taking wrong measures because of it...
  • When was the 7.60 update released? My stress scores are slightly down at the moment, 41 for March, 40 for February, 44 for January, 46 for December. I'm down into 20's for some days this month but up quite high on others when I've been out cycling.
  • Although this is a fenix thread, I can report the same from a vivoactive 3. Values are really high even in non stressy situations (as today, Sunday, doing nothing). In addition, I face large gaps in the stress curve - when I am sleeping or lying relaxed on the couch. Sensor placement is perfect, because Heart rate is monitored without any problems (please see attached curve). So I assume that HRV can be calculated. So I have the strong feeling, that the algo has an issueciq.forums.garmin.com/.../1331978.png
  • Although this is a fenix thread, I can report the same from a vivoactive 3. Values are really high even in non stressy situations (as today, Sunday, doing nothing). In addition, I face large gaps in the stress curve - when I am sleeping or lying relaxed on the couch. Sensor placement is perfect, because Heart rate is monitored without any problems (please see attached curve). So I assume that HRV can be calculated. So I have the strong feeling, that the algo has an issue


    My wife's Vivoactive3 has also gone bad regarding the all-day-stress values recently.

    Here is what mine (Fenix5) used to look like normally before firmware 7.60, and how it looks now everyday, no change if you are resting, moderately active, sleeping, cooling down after a hard workout, rest days, etc ... doesn't matter, its the same erratic patterns everyday throughout the day.

    ciq.forums.garmin.com/.../1332036.jpg
  • My VA3 has also been cactus for some time now. My average is up in the 60s and at first this was INCREASING my stress in itself! I do a lot of other biofeedback, especially HRV which this is meant to be and all my other hardware shows the Garmin is blowing it way out. What I don't understand is why Garmin have gone silent on this? It worked really well for the first month or so, why can't they just update back to what it was?

    If Garmin are failing to respond, has anybody contacted Firstbeat directly?
  • Yesterday I did a factory reset on my VA3 - image attached.. now it looks far better. Try itciq.forums.garmin.com/.../1332270.jpg