Different versions of 5X?

It would be great to replace my Fenix 3 and Epix with one new Fenix 5X, but the price.. breath taking..
Would there be any chance of other variants of the 5X? I do not really want sapphire glass (use screen protectors anyway, always) and also prefer a silver bezel.

0 Bit over 8 years ago

My Scosche Rhythm also works great with a low HR, and one of the "no-brand" OHR activity trackers I tried also did a reasonably good job when it was sampling continuously (you could force it to do that). But not when it sampled every 10 minutes. It alway started displaying a HR of 72, and when the actual HR was not too far from that (say 60), it would quickly settle. However when the actual HR was 40, it needed more time to arrive at the right value, and the LED would be off when it was still not done, and it would display 50.
If I were Garmin I'd take into account that people who exercise a lot, tend to have lower than average resting HR, and make devices 'learn' a table of values, of activity-intensity (accelerometer based) together with the typical user's HR at that level. With that table, the estimation would be able to pick the probably-mostly-right-HR-for-that-activity-intensity-level to start with, and quickly arrive at the correct value. Of course that can go wrong in some instances (like brushing teeth can result in "vigorous activity" being logged).
Thinking of all the needed research, the complexity, design, implementation and testing/validating.. so much time goes into that, it's understandable that this kind of device is not cheap.

0 2goBeyond over 8 years ago

My Scosche Rhythm also works great with a low HR, and one of the "no-brand" OHR activity trackers I tried also did a reasonably good job when it was sampling continuously (you could force it to do that). But not when it sampled every 10 minutes. It alway started displaying a HR of 72, and when the actual HR was not too far from that (say 60), it would quickly settle. However when the actual HR was 40, it needed more time to arrive at the right value, and the LED would be off when it was still not done, and it would display 50.
If I were Garmin I'd take into account that people who exercise a lot, tend to have lower than average resting HR, and make devices 'learn' a table of values, of activity-intensity (accelerometer based) together with the typical user's HR at that level. With that table, the estimation would be able to pick the probably-mostly-right-HR-for-that-activity-intensity-level to start with, and quickly arrive at the correct value. Of course that can go wrong in some instances (like brushing teeth can result in "vigorous activity" being logged).
Thinking of all the needed research, the complexity, design, implementation and testing/validating.. so much time goes into that, it's understandable that this kind of device is not cheap.

Everything you just wrote... Perfect. They need to start doing this.

0 Crispin_Ellisdon over 8 years ago

A model without OHR would be my preference, I would switch the OHR sensor off anyway to conserve energy. I don't get a reliable HR from wrist based sensors (in no-brand activity trackers). Maybe if Garmin has a good OHR algorithm for dealing with lower than average resting heartrates it would work though. But I'd rather have a more affordable 5X without OHR.

It seems you can at least turn the OHR off http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/fenix5/EN-US/GUID-358696A6-F98D-4772-8507-AF73499DB129.html (thanks to MCBADGER for finding and posting the link to the manual elsewhere on the forums https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?367564-Fenix-5-Charging-on-the-Go&p=934482#post934482; very interesting reading)

0 Olu.F. over 8 years ago

OHR monitors haven't worked well for me (a known issue with darker skin). Schosche always doubled my HR and Mio was way off. I've also used a couple of beta products that were decent. Sadly the Apple watch (which I owned for a week) was the most accurate. I'll try the Fenix5 OHR for a couple of weeks, but see myself shutting it off. I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a cheaper non OHR version of the F5 after the initial sales rush.

0 0drop over 8 years ago

What about a sans HR 5x?
Thinner, more endurance, cheaper?

Yeah, I would prefer a model like that.

0 gaijin over 8 years ago

So would I!

0 FabioPascua over 8 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a cheaper non OHR version of the F5 after the initial sales rush.

I really hope you were right!!!
F5, F5s and F5x.

0 Former Member over 8 years ago

Garmin say's "until 24h autonomie", but is with OHR or is only GPS ON??

0 timgrose over 8 years ago

You aren't likely to see high-end GPS watches without OHR any more. In fact you would probably will get it on all of them. It's there if you want it but if don't want it, turn it off...

0 Olu.F. over 8 years ago

You aren't likely to see high-end GPS watches without OHR any more. In fact you would probably will get it on all of them. It's there if you want it but if don't want it, turn it off...

I can only hope your wrong, but watches with OHR are heavier, bigger, and use more battery power then their equivalent watches. Both smaller size and increased battery life seemed to be more coveted features then OHR. I could be wrong.