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Montana 750i doesn't recalculate while pedestrian walking to a waypoint

5293031
1 month ago

I've noticed that, when navigating to a saved waypoint in pedestrian walking mode, if I deviate from the calculated route (because I know there is a more efficient route) whichever program (City Navigator, I assume) is doing the navigating fails to calculate a revised route. Has anyone else had this problem or know of a solution? Even Waze and Google Maps recalculate almost immediately if I deviate from a calculated route.

Thanks,

Terry

  • 0 1 month ago

    What exactly do you mean when you say "fails to calculate a revised route"? Does the Montana give an error message? Or does it not recalculate at all?

    How are the settings under Setup > Routing configured? And what map are you using?

  • 0 1 month ago in reply to JungleJim

    It doesn't update the route map to reflect where I am actually walking as opposed to where it thinks I should be walking, and continues to say that I'm supposed to turn left in 500 feet when I should actually turn right in about that distance where I am actually walking. As I said, I assume the Montana is using City Navigator, as I am pedestrian walking and it is routing me along city streets.

    Settings:

    Direct Routing--No

    Activity--Prompted

    Course Navigation Method--Roads & Trails

    Course Alerts--On

    Popularity Routing--Off

    Lock on Road--No

    Calculation Method--Prompted

  • 0 1 month ago in reply to 5293031

    The Montana will use the active map or map layer for calculating routes. So if you have the CityNavigator maps installed and the CityNavigator layer is active, that map is used for route calculation. CityNavigator is more geared towards motorised activities (car, motorcycle, quad, etc). For hiking/walking activities the TopoActive maps may give you better results.

    You could try setting the Lock on Road to Yes, this will "snap" your position to the nearest road on the map even if your actual position is not fully on that road.

  • 0 1 month ago in reply to JungleJim

    Thank you for responding, Jim.

    I took my Garmin out this evening for a side-by-side comparison to the Google Maps app on my cell phone. My destination was a nature park about a mile from my home. Both GM and Garmin calculated the same less than optimum route, taking me perhaps half a mile out of the way because they missed available short-cuts. The travel method I chose in Google maps was walking, and on the Garmin alternately Pedestrian Walking and Hiking.

    In all cases, when I deviated from the route the apps mapped out, Google Maps almost immediately revised the route to take into account the deviation, but the Garmin Montana never did even though I chose Roads & Trails, which allows for recalculation, as the course navigation method. One factor may be how detailed the Google and Garmin maps are. Zooming way in, the Google base map seems to have more footpaths, trails, and alleys than the Garmin TopoActive and City Navigator maps do.

    Another possibility: according to the Montana 700 Series manual (page 50) there is supposed to be an advanced routing setting, Off Route Recalculation, but I don't see any such setting in Advanced Routing Settings on the unit (there's no Avoidance Setup setting, either). Any suggestions?

    Thank you,

    Terry

  • 0 1 month ago in reply to 5293031

    Ok so your issue may be due to that have set the activity to Prompted. If Activity is set to Prompted the settings Avoidance Setup and Off Route Calculation are not available in the Routing configuration. So try what happens when you set Activity to a specific activity, like Hiking.

    Also check the maps you're using. City Navigator does not have all the trails and paths because it is a map suited for motorised activities. Try switching to the Topo Active map and see if that gives better results.

  • 0 26 days ago in reply to JungleJim

    I ran another side-by-side comparison of the Montana 750i and Google Maps on my cell phone this evening. As before, both came up with the same suboptimal routing. When I deviated from the plotted route, Google Maps very quickly recalculated the route and repainted it on-screen. The Montana never did. I had to manually change the destination (to the same destination) before it would calculate a new, more direct route using paved and unpaved trails and redraw it on the screen. The activity setting was hiking, the advanced routing setting was automatically recalculate, and topo active was the active map.

    Any other suggestions? I hate to think that the free Google Maps app on my cell phone can outperform my $800 Garmin Montana in an urban setting. (Obviously, it would do better where there were no cell phone towers.)

    I've also started encountering the problem where the Montana spontaneously shuts off and has to be manually restarted (with the current route still active). I've read on-line that this may be due to the Montana's woefully inadequate internal resources, if you have too many maps active. I recently installed Open Street Maps, which could be causing the system to overload. My next experiment will be to see whether the shut down occurs more when I am using Topo Active alone, Open Street Map alone, or both together. Depending on what I find out, I'll start a new thread if necessary.