R10 distances seem off.

fyaajster said:

I totally agree indoor is garbage waste of $$. My 8i  total distance is 120yrd Lmao,

That is a pretty standard 8i distance for somebody hitting on a mat indoors on a Trackman. Have you hit indoors on a higher-end simulator and gotten better distances? I ask because I scoffed at my 135 7i hits as being way short, went to Dicks, put R10 next to Trackman... and hit 135 yards with my game ball on both devices. The golf staff said that's pretty standard dropoff until you adapt to the indoors and mat.

Right back out to the course I'm a little over 150, but without that point of reference, I'd be swearing up and down that this thing was broken.

Bu$hnell

I had/have the P3pro swing. In that it detects club path, club head speed, launch angle and impact point. Based on these it calculates smash factor and ball speed i believe. Most importantly it asks you what is your max clubhead speed and max  distance is for each club. That way the distances are as expected, thus making the sim experience better. 

Maybe Garmin should create a toggle function for Trackman consistent tables, and user customizable tables (or adjustable correction factor).  This would allow us to enjoy a round on the simulator without having to ruin our swing mechanics by trying to match our on course distances.  A big factor in buying this unit was for the simulator.

hopefully they can fix this with software improvements.  I am indoors and it is picking up every hit, the direction is pretty spot on as well. The distances are just terrible when you put any sort of speed in to your swing. Its right on with chip shots and short 30-50 yarders. Maybe they can put an indoor adjustment in there.. Something you can toggle on or off. This way it can make those adjustments. I am holding out hope. 

I think firmware 3.60 is doing ok distance wise but I'm pretty sure some of the club data is not being measured until after the radar senses the ball strike. Specifically the club head speed. Once of the biggest challenges is alignment. You have to hit perfectly straight lobs and adjust until you feel comfortable. I do feel like the club path and face angle has a lot of improvement with the 3.60 update. It does seem like its missing the AOA for the driver still. All that being said I'm happy with it for a radar only launch monitor and I know Garmin will continue to improve it over time. 

For speed what if you had like an input for the club length to allow the radar to make a calculated speed by measuring from a more accurate point on the club like the bottom of the shaft or something.

One last edit too on a positive note. Thanks to the R10 I was able to adjust my club path straight and have been noticing my face is still opening at impact. Well after many days of YouTube research on the proper swing and seemingly coming across the Mike Dunaway videos (out of the the many other teachers I watch). I recorded my swing and was able to pinpoint my lead wrist extension in the acceleration phase is what is leading to this open club face. I realized even though I am avoiding this extension in the backswing like Dunaway's narrator says to do its coming back in the downswing. That would hard to figure out without a launch monitor unless you are a professional golfer. 

Similar to most here, I'm also seeing distances 2 to 3 clubs short indoors. Ball to net is 10ft and ball to r10 has been tried at 6 to 7 ft. 

I've wondered how many are having the short distance issue while many others are not...by any chance does it have to do with what the ball is hitting? For example, a black net (what I have) vs a white projector screen? 

Curious if anyone with black nets are getting accurate distance and if anyone with white screens are getting short distances?

Otherwise I'm out of troubleshooting options... no concrete floor and no metal in the view.

I've been playing with it a lot and reading other discussions of the topic. One person suggested that the vertical angle of the unit is very important to getting correct distances since the launch angle is very important in calculating the carry distance so I made a simple stand that I can easily level both left to right and up and down with three screws. The results are promising.

I thought that the distances measured were way low but when I went out on course yesterday, they turned out to be more accurate than I thought. Longer clubs are still short, but iron play is pretty close.

Try pointing the unit down a few degrees to see how that affects your distance measurements. Pointing it lower will make it see the ball flight as higher which should alter the carry distance.

I used three long screws that provide about an inch of adjustment for tilt in any angle. The boards were just some scrap I had lying around. But it provides a long base for more adjustment accuracy. To set the level, I use a good quality carpenters level. 

I'm going to add a centerline to the long board for more accurate alignment to the target and a block at the front so that the front legs of the R-10 stand are perpendicular.

Here's my followup. I was curious to see what difference the vertical angle makes. Conclusion: almost no difference at all!

I wanted to try extremes, so I propped up the back leg about 1/2" (so much that it almost fell forward. I then compared the numbers with the front legs propped up. The resultant difference in vertical angle was 12-14 degrees. The measurements for launch angle measured, at most, a couple of degrees, but my ball striking isn't consistent enough to draw a firm conclusion. I did this for both the 7i and driver with the same results. Minimal difference.

My conclusion is that the unit is compensating for moderate vertical pointing variations. It definitely has a tilt sensor built in  as the software pops up a warning message if the unit is tilted out of this range. This makes sense as the unit would produce too large a variation if it didn't compensating for minor pointing differences.

My second conclusion is, don't sweat the vertical positioning since it doesn't make a measurable difference.

I'm going to have to run some tests on left-right tilt. Some have mentioned that this has big effects on the ball curve. 

" I was curious to see what difference the vertical angle makes. Conclusion: almost no difference at all!"

This is consistent with what I've been seeing. When I first got my R10 I was curious about how sensitive the output would be to level and alignment as I usually use launch monitors on a grass range that's not perfectly level. I went through a couple of buckets while perturbing the level and/or alignment and found, similar to you, that there's not much difference in the output other than the absolute club path and launch direction numbers which are dependent on the alignment.