wf limitation app battery consuming

jim_m_58 said:

.  With attention, you might say it's minimal for an hourly chime, but a WF could do chimes every 5 minutes.

Noone would install a wf that does a buzz every 5 minutes.

I know we 've had the discussion before but i still think the connect iq team has made the wrong decision by not allowing the attention module from within a watch face... so many interesting use cases that would bring!

yes, false - system decides, true app served system do nothing

so when I return false system simple kill app

jim_m_58 said:

but a WF could do chimes every 5 minutes.

by background process I understand, so I have to decide what to in onTemporalEvent, reading data or playing song...

can background call exitTo?

No Attention in background services.  You also can't do an exitTo from a background service.

peterdedecker said:

jim_m_58 said:

.  With attention, you might say it's minimal for an hourly chime, but a WF could do chimes every 5 minutes.

so how wf can do chimes every 5 minutes? is sound or vibrate? flashing display is not enough to wake up user (or meybe if I start flashing fas watch starts vibrate from it hahaha)

jim_m_58 said:

Yes, a widget can have a background service, just like a watch face.  But background services have limitations as watch faces do. (you can't record an activity for example)

if widget is not visible, can it play alarm, do vibrating, tell system to show it? for example I start timer in widget.

_psx_ said:

o how wf can do chimes every 5 minutes? is sound or vibrate?

You can't in a watch face as Attention isn't available.  But if Attention was available you could.

_psx_ said:

f widget is not visible, can it play alarm, do vibrating, tell system to show it?

See Background.requestApplicationWake()

jim_m_58 said:

You can't in a watch face as Attention isn't available.  But if Attention was available you could.

if app is in foreground i don't to have to make such tricks, because I can do alarm in many ways (timer for example).

jim_m_58 said:

See Background.requestApplicationWake()

I've done it, not satisfied, one short vibration and ask if open app, not wake up user. And the other problem that background can be kill by system.

_psx_ said:

if widget is not visible, can it play alarm, do vibrating, tell system to show it? for example I start timer in widget.

maybe this, I don't want to do next test

Now I'm preparing app to measure battery usage by app.

I'd like to put some code and

is next forum error, test it

so, I'm not bloked

let's try again, no code in code format...  so clear text

using Toybox.WatchUi            as UII;
using Toybox.Timer                 as TMR;
using Toybox.Time.Gregorian     as GRE;
using Toybox.Time                 as TIM;
using Toybox.Graphics             as GRA;
using Toybox.Math                 as MAT;
using Toybox.System             as SYS;

class batteryusageView extends UII.View
{
    var mDrawNumTMR, mDrawNumTOT = 0 , mTMR, mIsMeasuring = false, mMeasureStartTIM, mMeasureStartBAT;
    
    function initialize()
    {
        View.initialize();
        mTMR = new TMR.Timer();
    }

    function getCurrentData()
    {
        return [MAT.floor(SYS.getSystemStats().battery), new TIM.Moment(TIM.now().value())];
    }
    
    function onMeasureTMR()
    {
        mDrawNumTMR++;
        requestUpdate();
    }

    function onSelect()
    {
        if(mIsMeasuring)
        {
            mIsMeasuring = false;
            mTMR.stop();
            onMeasureTMR();
        }else
        {
            mIsMeasuring = true;
            var c= getCurrentData();
            mMeasureStartBAT = c[0];
            mMeasureStartTIM = c[1];
            mDrawNumTMR = 0;
            
            mTMR.start(
                method(:onMeasureTMR),
                1000*60,
                true);
            onMeasureTMR();
        }
        return true;
    }
    
    function onUpdate(dc)
    {
        dc.setColor(GRA.COLOR_TRANSPARENT, GRA.COLOR_BLACK);
        dc.clear();
    
        var f = GRA.FONT_SYSTEM_TINY;
        var t;
        
        var c= getCurrentData();
        
        if(mMeasureStartTIM)
        {
            dc.setColor(GRA.COLOR_BLUE, GRA.COLOR_TRANSPARENT);
        
            dc.drawText(130,90, f, "mDrawNumTMR=" + mDrawNumTMR, GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_VCENTER + GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_CENTER);
            
            var m = (c[1].value() - mMeasureStartTIM.value())/60;
            var T = (m / 60).format("%02d") + ":" + (m % 60).format("%02d");
            t = GRE.info(mMeasureStartTIM, TIM.FORMAT_SHORT);
            t = t.year + "-" + t.month.format("%02d") + "-" + t.day.format("%02d") + " " +
                t.hour.format("%02d") + ":" + t.min.format("%02d") + ":" + t.sec.format("%02d") + " " + T;
            dc.drawText(130, 110, f, t, GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_VCENTER + GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_CENTER);
            
            t = c[0] - mMeasureStartBAT;
            
            m = m ? ((c[0] - mMeasureStartBAT)/m.toFloat()).format("%.2f") : 0;
            
            dc.drawText(130, 130, f, "BatSta=" + mMeasureStartBAT.format("%.0f") + "% " + m + "%/min", GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_VCENTER + GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_CENTER);
        }
        
        mDrawNumTOT++;
        dc.setColor(GRA.COLOR_YELLOW, GRA.COLOR_TRANSPARENT);
        
        dc.drawText(130,190, f, "mDrawNumTOT=" + mDrawNumTOT, GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_VCENTER + GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_CENTER);
        
        t = GRE.info(c[1], TIM.FORMAT_SHORT);
        t = t.year + "-" + t.month.format("%02d") + "-" + t.day.format("%02d") + " " +
            t.hour.format("%02d") + ":" + t.min.format("%02d") + ":" + t.sec.format("%02d");
        dc.drawText(130, 210, f, t, GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_VCENTER + GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_CENTER);
        
        dc.drawText(130, 230, f, "BatCur=" + c[0].format("%.0f") + "%", GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_VCENTER + GRA.TEXT_JUSTIFY_CENTER);
        return true;
    }

}

this simple code on fenix pro 6

results:

mDrawNumTMR=77

...01:16

BatSta=23% -0.07%

mDrawNumTOT=80

...

BatCur=18%

0.07*60=4.2%/h

4.2*8h = 33.6%/night not acceptable...

wf: 0.014%/min -> 0.83%/h

and I think watch is warm

Is it normal such consumption battery?

I have very easy idea which allow developer to write fine app - remove question about wake up app, this call only app belong to background process, or if Garmin afraid something:

- add to ciq new requestApplicationWakeWithoutQuestion

- add new permission "Allow wake up app"