Cutting and Pasting Between Applications

Former Member
Former Member
In Mapsource I can highlight a number of waypoints, copy them (^C or RMB/Copy), then paste them into an Excel spreadsheet or other application. That doesn't work in Basecamp as nothing seems to be in the Windows clipboard so there is nothing to paste.

That's fairly basic Windows functionality, is the omission deliberate?

Kevin
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Not sure what you want to hear :)


    I don't want to hear anything in particular. Having the choice of using old maps and Mapsource or current maps and Basecamp I'd prefer to use the current maps so I'm trying to come up with a workflow that will achieve what I want to do in Basecamp without going through too many hoops and hurdles (and I don't want to go through extra hoops and hurdles because I don't know the better way that exists). If I can't do that I'll go down the old maps and Mapsource route.

    Did you read my original question? (and that's all it was, a simple question). I'll précis it for you - is it possible to create a route in Basecamp without having to create waypoints? From what you are saying it appears I can if I know where the places are and they are identified well enough on the map for me to be able to click on them using the new route tool. In the circumstances of one or other of those not being true, and they often aren't, the answer appears to be no.

    I thought I'd found a way to do it by searching for something then clicking 'Create route from result' for the first then 'Add to route' for the subsequent locations but they both create waypoints from the search result I've used which need to be tidied up afterwards. It's a PITA but no great hassle now I know that's what I need to do.

    Of course if you can't identify the point on the map you can't click on it, but in those circumstances you can't click on it in Mapsource either.


    As per my original post on this, I wouldn't be trying to click on the map in Mapsouce (it was you who suggested that method). In Mapsource I can create a route using the route properties/find tool which is quick, easy and efficient as I don't have to tidy up waypoints afterwards (well, as quick, easy and efficient as anything else in Mapsource and Basecamp).

    <snip> I'd start by creating a waypoint at the first location if I knew where it was or use the search tool to find it. Right click it and select 'Create route using selected waypoints'. Then use the search tool to find the others, once found in the search box you can right click them and select add to route. No need to save anything as a waypoint unless you want to.


    I must be missing something there as the first two bits I've emboldened don't appear to fit with the last.

    Kevin
  • We're going in circles here. Basecamp will do what you want but it works slightly differently to Mapsource. I agree that if you use the 'add to route' you need to tidy up waypoints afterwards, but apart from that it's pretty much the same.

    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear on the bit you've emboldened. You can either create a waypoint (assuming you know where to create it) or use the search tool (in which case BC will create the waypoint when you right click and either select create route or add to route).

    I suspect if you play with BC a bit more you'll soon find it as easy as Mapsource to create/edit routes. Like you I was struggling at first but you just need to persevere and practise :)
  • Wow, this thread has really grown and changed direction. I&#8217;ve only skimmed over most the posts, so I may well have missed details.

    I don&#8217;t know why there is a route calculation error. It might be a BaseCamp 4.1 bug (are you using 4.1?) or it might be a problem with City Navigator 2012.4. All I can say is that the approximate route can be made in version 4.05 with City Navigator 2012.1 using the end point coordinates you supplied.

    I have the DVD version of City Navigator 2012.1 and it can be used in MapSource.

    I am far from an expert from building routes, but I can assure you that they can be built from waypoints, via/shaping points or a combination of both. At the moment, I don&#8217;t have the time to go into details.

    Some of you have lost the &#8220;New Route&#8221; pop up window. I&#8217;m not sure how to get it back, but if I lost it, I would try Utilities>Options>General and click on the reset options. HOWEVER, if I had created or customized profiles I would probably post a question to the forum, possibly including FALAGAR in the topic, and suggest that the recovery of said popup window be made a sticky item. I would also ask if new profiles would be lost (possibly not) and verify that changes to existing profiles would be lost (likely).
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Dear Kweller,

    You echo my sentiments exactly.

    I have been using Mapsource for around 6 years and my old Quest iterfaced with it seamlessly. Creating routes was click-click done, edit waypoints.

    This Basecamp crap has really slowed me down. I just had to upgrade top a Zumo 350 because I dropped my Quest and now the Zumo doesn't integrate with Mapquest. It took me two days to figure out the bloody route, track, adventure and whatever else they could cram into the stupid Basecamp thing. What a complete ass-pain.

    Well done Garmin.
  • KWELLER, since there have been changes to the find function it might be best to wait for 4.1.1 so that I don&#8217;t inadvertently provide obsolete instruction (I&#8217;m still on 4.05). Is this acceptable you?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    KWELLER, since there have been changes to the find function it might be best to wait for 4.1.1 so that I don&#8217;t inadvertently provide obsolete instruction (I&#8217;m still on 4.05). Is this acceptable you?


    4.1.1 will just have bug fixes. No UI changes.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    KWELLER, since there have been changes to the find function it might be best to wait for 4.1.1 so that I don&#8217;t inadvertently provide obsolete instruction (I&#8217;m still on 4.05). Is this acceptable you?


    I'm not entirely sure what you are proposing to provide instructions for :confused:.

    I opened this thread asking about cutting and pasting between Basecamp and Office and the consensus was that it can't be done.

    I then moved on to ask whether Basecamp could create routes without having to create waypoints and we established that if the whereabouts of the routing points are known and those locations are visible on the map it can be done using the New Route tool but if either of those circumstances are not true it can't.

    The only outstanding issue is why I'm getting an error message from Basecamp telling me it cannot create a route.

    Kevin
  • I was referring to the route part. I have no problem withdrawing my offer to help.

    Sorry, can't help with route calculation error.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Well explained Dan.

    I'm told Autoroute 2013 fixes the GPX issue (not sure about SnT) but I don't yet have a copy of either to try. I'd still sooner use Mapsource/Basecamp to give me the opportunity to try multiple routes and compare them on the same screen but I guess I could always calculate the route using Autoroute/SnT then import into Basecamp one at a time. I suppose that would also give me the opportunity to use the Autoroute Optimise Route tool.

    As soon as the Zumo that has the licence for the US maps comes back from repair (or, more likely, I receive the replacement) I'm going to upgrade my US maps and try this again, If I still get the error I'll take advantage of your kind offer, thanks.

    Kevin
  • Ok, I'll bite :)

    I know BC supports Birdseye imagery and has a (much) better track properties dialog but what else makes it "far more powerful"? :p


    Not to mention the ability to read/use maps located on a connected device, read/use/edit data DIRECTLY on the device (without importing into BaseCamp database), Ability to use Garmin Custom Maps (in addition to the mentioned BirdsEye Maps), etc. etc.

    Oh, and BaseCamp will read all data on modern Garmin GPSr devices, where MapSource WILL NOT.