Cutting and Pasting Between Applications

Former Member
Former Member
In Mapsource I can highlight a number of waypoints, copy them (^C or RMB/Copy), then paste them into an Excel spreadsheet or other application. That doesn't work in Basecamp as nothing seems to be in the Windows clipboard so there is nothing to paste.

That's fairly basic Windows functionality, is the omission deliberate?

Kevin
  • You can copy and paste info from Mapsource into BC and vice versa, so not sure why it's not working for you? Just use Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    That's exactly what I'm trying. I agree that it works between Mapsource and Basecamp, I do that all the time, but I can't get it to work with anything else.

    (Sorry about this sudden flurry of question but Garmin have forced me to use Basecamp by breaking Mapsource with the latest maps :mad:. I've considered using the older maps with Mapsource but that's not very palatable either. )

    Kevin
  • In MapSource the copy command copies the data as tab delimited text. BaseCamp does not do this – perhaps it’s binary? In any event it is not a format that the clipboard can recognize, so you can’t copy to Office applications. As SUSSAMB states, you can copy/Paste between MapSource and BaseCamp.

    An alternative way to get data into Excel is to export a .gpx file; open Excel then open the .gpx file via File>Open and setting file types to all files. This may not work in older versions of Excel, but new versions should correctly parse the data into columns and rows.

    I believe that BaseCamp now has the option to export a tab delimited file. I should point out that file BaseCamp produces is different from what MapSource produces, so it may or may not suit your purpose. You should be able to open the tab delimited file with Word or Excel.

    If MapSource solves your issue, just think of MapSource as a utility application to get data from one application to another. Open both BaseCamp and MapSource, copy from BaseCamp and paste in MapSource then do what used to do.

    Hope this helps.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Thanks. I always have Mapsource open anyway as I mostly use that for searching for places, particularly in the UK, then copy the waypoint to Basecamp. We've changed our workflow to export from Basecamp then import into MS Office but I continue to be frustrated by Basecamp which now seems incapable of calculating some routes despite a reinstall.

    The reason I chose Garmin was because of the ability to calculate routes on the PC then download them to the SatNav. I'd never have described Mapsource as a great piece of software but at least I can get it to do pretty much what I want. If Basecamp had been the only software offering at the time there's no question my choices would have been different.

    Kevin
  • I know BC can be difficult to find your way around and it doesn't suit everyone but to others it's far more powerful than mapsource, although I also keep mapsource open for postcode searches. However that aside I've never had an issue with BC being 'incapable of calculating some routes', are you able to give examples?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    I have no interest in its hiking or GeoCaching capabilities or 'Garmin Adventures' and no use for the cloud so, in terms of creating multi-point routes for motorcycles (or any vehicle) for downloading to one of our Zumos, in what way is it more powerful? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm desperately trying to find some positives from being forced to use it if I want to use the latest maps. I'm also pretty desperate to get it to work as, as I said earlier, the only alternative is to use an older map in Mapsource. It's not just me, take a look at many motorcycling forums where Basecamp is being discussed, the non-Garmin Zumo forums, the LDRider mailing list, I'm sure there are others.We're not all luddites, I'm very happy to embrace new software if it does what I need it to.

    I've attached a screen shot of the error I'm getting. I've created the route by joining waypoints using the route tool and if I try to extend it to any of the cluster of waypoints near the endpoint I've just tried to add I get the same error. Taking a route from those waypoints to anywhere else results in the same problem. That particular waypoint is at N41 31.974 W87 15.322. I've tried re-creating it and, as I said earlier, I have uninstalled then reinstalled Basecamp; neither made any difference.

    I've outlined below a typical workflow for when I'm creating routes.

    Mapsource: I have a number of waypoints plotted on the map (as per the attachment). I select the route tool then click on my starting point. I move my mouse pointer to the next waypoint which Mapsource helpfully highlights to show I have selected it correctly, I click to add it to the route. I move the next one, click, and so on. While I'm doing this, Mapsource is updating the route details in the left-hand pane so I can see what my total mileage and time required is. If I decide the last waypoint I've added makes the route too long I can use ^Z to remove it then carry on.

    Basecamp: Same as above except Basecamp will only put the waypoint name in the tooltip occasionally, despite moving the pointer all over the icon, so I've no idea if I'm clicking on the correct place, it's currently failing as per my screen shot* and I can see no way of getting it to display the total mileage and time as I'm creating the route.

    The best result for me is I prove to be an idiot and Basecamp does exactly what I need so please don't be shy of telling me that!

    Kevin
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    ...but to others it's far more powerful than mapsource...

    Ok, I'll bite :)

    I know BC supports Birdseye imagery and has a (much) better track properties dialog but what else makes it "far more powerful"? :p
  • Guessed someone would :p, perhaps 'far' was a word too far, maybe just 'more powerful'. I know for those of us who have been around a while we can easily mix and match basecamp and mapsource as necessary, but for others with it's ability to access birdseye, maps directly from a GPS, the more recent handhelds without issues, now cloud support and so on it is (or should be) more powerful. That's not to say I'm not as frustrated as most with the two steps forward, one step back that we seem to take with every new release, and even in some cases one step forward, two steps back :mad:. Also like some I still run back to Mapsource when necessary, but BC pretty well now does everything I need :)
  • @kweller

    I don't have a US map so can't check out your route, sorry. I suspect for your use though you will need very few of the features in Basecamp, so the fact it won't do what you do need it for must be frustrating. Have you tried splitting the route to see if that works?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    ...maps directly from a GPS...
    I'd forgotten about that one since it doesn't affect me. That is a nice feature.
    ...the more recent handhelds without issues...
    Ahhh, those newer models that have their own issues :)
    ...now cloud support...
    For those that'll use it I guess that's good. I don't store anything online. I think it's a bad idea but I'm in the minority it seems.
    ...Also like some I still run back to Mapsource when necessary......
    Ah ha! So BC is like a young/exciting mistress but you still go back to MS (the wife) when you need stability :p