So they closed my other thread when garmin responded to tell me to reach out to my local service support. My experience...thank you garmin, you are certainly not getting anything else from me. after about 3 questions the service tech told me that they can exchange my watch for a 110 (USD) fee. I already purchased this watch once, it's hardly 3 years old, so garmin insists that the only fix is to send me a refurbished VA3 for an extra $110.00? Good god Garmin get it together! Good luck to anyone else out there with the same issue.