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Skiing app and Auto Run problems

Hello,

Anyone here using auto run in ski activity? Is it working for you as it should?

I had two skiing activities recently and not one of them was fine.

When I used auto run my tracks are all over the place. Watch doesn't make correct runs and it even doesn't record tracks fine. The parts where I used the ski lift are all over the place and it is as if the lift used different line for each run and that is not possible.

When I'm skiing it is not possible for me to take of gloves off and use touch screen to start and end each run so without auto run enabled I recorded the activity as a single run. It recorded the distance and tracks accurately but it just recorded one run's descent. When used without auto run the tracks are recorded correctly and elevator ends at the same spot each time.

I attached two pictures where you can see what I described. On first picture you can see that lift end each time on almost the same spot and with auto run enabled each lift run ends at the different spot.

So, anyone else had any experience with skiing app? Does it work correctly for you or do you have same problems? Is there any workaround or are there any CIQ apps that would record the activity correctly that you know of?

Thanks.
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0 stevefox over 6 years ago

I use "skiing app professional" and it seems to work fine. The developer has a series of these for running, cycling, etc and they are all good. The only issue i had with the native app is that it seemed to stop recording part way through a run and then pick up recording while on thee lift, probably auto pause related.

0 had746 over 6 years ago

I use "skiing app professional" and it seems to work fine. The developer has a series of these for running, cycling, etc and they are all good. The only issue i had with the native app is that it seemed to stop recording part way through a run and then pick up recording while on thee lift, probably auto pause related.

Hi. I tried "Skiing app professional" and it worked perfectly, no problems at all so I donated to support developer. Thank you for suggestion.

It looks like Garmin default skiing app is simply bad.

0 cc13 over 6 years ago

Hi,

I'm using the default skiing app and it works fine for me. And I like the battery usage. When I start with 100% in the morning and use the app for the whole ski day (with a 1 hour break between) I have around 30-40% battery left.

Any experience with the battery usage from "Skiing app professional"?

0 robertr over 6 years ago

Hello,

i have used several apps with my Garmin VA 3 but no app is working well. Up to SW 2.9 everything worked, but with the changes on altitude the watch ist worthless for servera sports like skiing.
In my opinion the altitude works too lazy for skiing (irrespecitve of the app) . After a downhill, when i am sitting on the chairlift the altitude on my Garmin is still falling and the app is thinking i am on downhill. Half of the hill, the altitude of the watch is matching the real altitude, then the app ends the actual downhill.
Otherwise wenn i am starting the downhill, the altitude is still raising, and not until the real altitude is matching the app starts the downhill.

There are so many entrys about altitude errors but Garmin ignores them all.

Robert

0 had746 over 6 years ago

I started the app when I started skiing and I had somewhere around 93-95% battery at that time. App kept running for about five and half hours (125 run time, 85 lift time, 115 resting time) without me touching it at all and at the end of the run I had about 38- 40% battery left.

My problems with default app were described above but in short terms, when using auto run it was showing me all over the map and not even lift rides were on a same track, average moving speed wasn't correct, calories were not correct etc. but when not using auto run it wasn't calculating number of runs, it calculated lift rides into distance etc.

Skiing app professional calculates everything correctly and it shows additional stats that default app doesn't show.

EDIT: I didn't have problems robertr describes with this app, it calculated all my runs, both start points and end points correctly. With default app and auto run enabled, data recorded is practically useless, some rides start halfway down the mountain and it didn't even record lift rides in a straight line.

0 Dready74 over 6 years ago

I had the same behavoir reported by @had746: with the official app the autorun does not work properly because the restart is always too late. The app "skiing professional" does not have this issue just becaus it continues to record the activity also during the lift. Of course the battery usage is about 10% more than the original app but I can usa the device all the day (I just put manually in pause during lunch to save some amount of battery)

0 cc13 over 6 years ago

Next weekend I'll try Skiing app pro. Will update you with my experience next week.

0 mtsarpilot over 6 years ago

The Garmin built-in ski app is horrendous. They are trying to apply intelligence on bottom of run and top of lift to stop recording during the lift ride. Too bad they blew it so bad the content it generates is useless. The tracks are bad, the computations are absurd, and the overall result is of no value. I provided a number of tracks to Garmin support last week to show them how bad it is.

0 Dready74 over 6 years ago

What I do not understand is why the Ski App in my previous Vivoactive HR+ was not so bad: the autrun feature worked quite well not like in the VA3 ...

0 mtsarpilot over 6 years ago

What I do not understand is why the Ski App in my previous Vivoactive HR+ was not so bad: the autrun feature worked quite well not like in the VA3 ...

Simple, a software developer thought they were adding some useful piece of code and broke it. We've seen so many example of software releases from Garmin that have poor testing. They live in the flat lands of Kansas. Their automated regression testing methodology and capabilities are clearly quite poor. Since they don't live near the mountains and skiing, they clearly have not tested this app in a real world condition. We as users become the testers and need to let them know they blew it horribly. Then they have to be convinced they blew it and finally decide to try again

Garmin would be well served to utilize those of us that live in the mountains, thus ski and cycle and hike out here, as beta testers and listen to our input. Their testing in the flatlands clearly is not good.