These forced automatic updates should definitely be stoped. It's just a stupid implementation and trying to motivate it by saying the watch is aimed for lifestyle users (whatever that is) is just as stupid.
Prompt the user with "An update is available. Install now? Yes/no" and be done with it. Even a, supposedly, lifestyle user should be able to answer that question.
The original Vivoactive had a basic prompt when new FW updates were available, something like Install, Remind Later, Dismiss. Why that is not present in the Vivoactive 3 is ridiculous. I'm not doing as many races/events as many people here, but I still fear it will start updating right before one, or even a basic training workout. I don't want to wait 5 minutes and hope the watch boots back up correctly. Even when it I use it as a smartwatch during the day for notifications (or, like, viewing the current time) it can burn the user by updating without prompt.
an2njo Garmin refers to the VA3 as a "lifestyle" device because it's geared more towards people with an active lifestyle. Kind of a "jack of all trades" fitness tracker. The Forerunner and Fenix series are geared towards people that are more specific sport driven, so they have more in depth features and Garmin refers to them as sports watches. Anyway, I was very surprised to find the VA3 had forced updates and agree an option to install would be convenient and probably simple to implement. That being said, the post in this thread is the concern of a pushed update prior to or during a race. I've read no post of this happening yet. And let's be honest. With the amount of races performed vs the amount of updates released, what are the odds of this happening? Yes, an option is preferable, but simply turning off the Bluetooth connection on the watch or on your phone prior to a race will prevent this from happening.
@AsmugDill @TM717 I want to send a Whatsapp msg urgently and suddenly my phone forced to update. I want to write an office email but Windows forced to updated. What do you feel? Maybe I can say "OK, it it only a basic smartphone or WIndows Home edition, I should then buy an expensive phone or install a more expensive Windows Pro version or even buy a Mac to avoid the problem." But what we expect is to choose when to update, just a simple option. I am not asking "why my phone didn't get 1TB of internal memory" or something over expected.
So, DanielM, given the information you now have, wouldn't you say that the smart choice for you would be to go with a model in the Forerunner or fenix family of devices, instead of whinging about a reality you are powerless to change about the VA3 by yourself?
I guess i would have got the 645, if it had been available (or foreseeable for me that it would come out). so it's all a marketing gag, frustrating people with lesser devices? is that what you are insinuating?
I don't feel anything on your behalf, or in ‘empathy’ with your plight. Furthermore, I don't think it's a question of how the user feels in the face of such inconveniences, interruptions or setbacks. I've lost the fruit of hours of effort when my work computer crashed/BSOD'ed/powered off spontaneously for this-or-that reasons before. It was painful and frustrating, but so what? It happens, get over it, and learn to manage your risk as best you can given the equipment you're using (by choice or otherwise).
so it's all a marketing gag, frustrating people with lesser devices? is that what you are insinuating?
No. I'm saying that giving each and every user as much ‘choice’, control and/or customisation options as technically possible is not an as-a-matter-of-course priority to IT vendors and providers. How the individual user responds to not getting (or having access to) something perfect for his/her purposes and preferences, even when he/she imagines it's technically feasible and easy to deliver if the powers-that-be so choose, is not part of the equation for determining whether something ‘must‘ or ‘ought to’ be offered to users.
Personally, with my analyst hat on, I'm interested in the currently available solutions, without being particularly invested in minimising the costs and/or maximising the return-on-investment for individual users in question. They're my equals and peers, not my boss or benefactor or friend whose wellbeing I'm obliged to promote or safeguard.
@AuYeongKwokOn What are you talking about? An issue was brought up, I agreed with the proposal to solve it and I offered a temporary solution. You have a problem with that? ??
It's bizarre that Garmin doesn't give the option. Today When I wanted to start to record an activity my watch, I found that there must have been an update, because everything was messed up again. I hate it that I have to reconfigure my watch every couple of weeks/months!
