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How do I get weather info available on weather widget without my phone?

Hi. My weather widget is showing "waiting for data" for the last few days. Why is it so? Is it trying to pull data from my phone? My Venu is paired to a phone, however, I haven't turned on wi-fi on my phone for at least 5 days. Is this the cause of the problem? If it is, it does not make any sense. Venu has GPS and direct Wi-Fi access, so why would it need my phone to show the weather? Venu can very easily pull and push data directly via wi-fi, so why it can't pull weather info based on the last GPS coordinates for example? 

  • To save battery I assume, probably it works when turning on WiFi on your phone

  • Hi there! The weather is pulled from the location services on your phone and that syncs to the watch. The watch itself is not pulling from a weather app. 

  • Thanks for your explanation. However, it is quite a disappointing answer. It makes little sense to me, why would be phone necessary when the watches themselves can send the same request for weather info as my phone would.

  • Hey! I am sorry it's not working that way. I understand the frustration. Other than WIFI, watches cannot download any information directly. GPS cannot do that, and there is no underlying system in place to use a WIFI signal (on WIFI compatible devices) to pull in weather data. That's why Bluetooth to a phone with an internet connection is necessary. 

  • This sums up most of my complaints about these Garmin watches. Most of the data they are getting from the phone is nothing more than the phone getting that info from the Internet and then just passing the data to the watch over Bluetooth. This makes the data transmission much slower and drains the battery faster on both the watch and the phone, especially since you have to leave that God-awful bluetooth on on your phone all day. Since the newer watches have wifi anyway, it would be a lot faster and easier on batteries if they just requested the data directly, rather than using the phone as an extra middle-man.

    I get the impression that Garmin assumes that its customers are always "out" and never within range of wifi and therefore will need to depend on their phone's cellular data. But that's the opposite of reality in most cases. Even the most active Garman customers are within wifi range the vast majority of the time. And most Garmin users are within wifi range almost all day long. It really doesn't make any sense anymore for the watches to require the phone for 100% of all data transmissions. No sense at all.

  • I couldn't agree more. Nobody is asking for a 24/7 WiFi connection, which would kill the battery, but at least download/upload necessary things over WiFi maybe twice a day? Right now, some things can't be updated at all (weather for example), and some things can, but it is not done automatically. If I want to sync activities/steps/HR/... over WiFi, I need to do it automatically by pressing a dedicated button for it every time. Venu can't be like "Hey. It has been 12 hours sync the last sync. Do I have WiFi? If I do, I can upload data to Garmin Connect and the user does not have to bother! That is so simple and I don't need a phone for that because I have WiFi!"

  • Totally agree. Don't really understand what the use of wifi would be otherwise.  Yeah to sync activities, but if you need to connect to your Phone for every other thing it makes no sense. 

  • Where would it get the weather info without the phone or the internet? GPS signals do not transmit weather info, just location data.

  • From the Wi-Fi, like I said.  It is just dumb to have wifi, when the watch still needs a Phone to retrieve weather.

  • Ah yes, I see. Agreed.