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Vector 3 Vector 3 Pedal ID

Vector 3 Pedal ID

Former Member over 7 years ago

Just received pair of new Vector 3 pedals - I have not had either of the earlier models. Just wondering if it is normal to find that each pedal has a different ID etched on the spindle, and that the Ant ID (shown for instance when pairing with Trainer Road or Zwift) is different again.

My searches seem to suggest that with the Vector 2 pedals the numbers on each pedal should match - except when a single sided system has subsequently been upgraded to double sided - but I don't know if that remains true for the Vector 3.

I called Garmin support and they could not answer this question. They did say that the two pedal IDs didn't need to match to work (which must be true given upgrading etc) but didn't know whether normally the ID numbers would match for pedals bought as a pair. They also couldn't explain why the Ant ID shown in Trainerroad etc didn't match with either pedal number - but having thought about this more it occurs to me that it may be that with the Vector 3 (and maybe even previous versions) the pedal ID numbers are not actually Ant ID numbers at all.

Can anyone clarify?

Thanks in advance,

Matt

0 Garmin-Shawn over 7 years ago

This is expected Vector 3 ANT ID behavior due to the way some systems show the ANT ID values. Some applications do not show the full number. Each spindle has its own ANT ID.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

Thank you very much for the response. If you have time I would just like to double check - in my case the Ant ID number shown in both Zwift and Trainer Road is the same and bears no resemblance to the spindle numbers - not for instance just the case of dropping numbers off one end of one of the spindle numbers. Is this still what you would expect? Also, on the issue of each spindle having its own number do you know if this was in fact also the case with the Vector 2 pedals (contrary to the limited info I found suggesting a pair should have the same number) or is this new to the Vector 3?

Thanks again.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

Vector 1 and 2 dual sided systems were paired at the factory and did not allow the pedals to be split up and paired with another pedal or for them to be operated as a left side only system. Because the pedals could not be separated the spindles were given matching numbers.

The Vector 3 pedals are different in that they can separated and paired with other pedals or configured to be a left side only system. In order to do this each spindle needs its own unique ID.

You will find that the Edge 520, 820, 1000 and 1030 have options under the sensor details to unpair and pair pedals. These options are also in the Garmin Connect Mobile app.

0 Garmin-Shawn over 7 years ago

imatt66 I sent a PM out to you for a bit more details about your system.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

Vector 1 and 2 dual sided systems were paired at the factory and did not allow the pedals to be split up and paired with another pedal or for them to be operated as a left side only system. Because the pedals could not be separated the spindles were given matching numbers.

The Vector 3 pedals are different in that they can separated and paired with other pedals or configured to be a left side only system. In order to do this each spindle needs its own unique ID.

You will find that the Edge 520, 820, 1000 and 1030 have options under the sensor details to unpair and pair pedals. These options are also in the Garmin Connect Mobile app.

Thank you very much - greatly appreciated.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

imatt66 I sent a PM out to you for a bit more details about your system.

Have sent you a response - thank you for your help with this.

0 NeilJonesOnline over 7 years ago

FWIW, my V3 pedals have different numbers stamped on them, so I guess it's one number per pedal, not per pair/set.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

Thanks. Everything seems to be pointing in the same direction. You wouldn’t happen to know whether the Ant ID for your pair bears any resemblance to either pedal ID?

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

As stated in post #4 above, each spindle has its own ID.

To make more ANT IDs available the format was changed from 16bit to 20bit several years ago. Most newer devices will handle the 20bit size correctly.

Older devices such as the Edge 500 are excepting the 16bit format.

It would appear that Training Road and Zwift are also using the 16bit format.

If you need to know what your 20bit ID will be when being processed by a device or application that is using 16bit you can use the excel MOD function.

MOD(left-pedal-id, 65536)

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

Thanks. My Garmin is the Edge 500 and having tried a little earlier I did manage to manually pair using the same ID Trainer Road and Zwift quoted which seems to confirm what you say regarding 16bit format.