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Stair flight count (and altimeter locking in general)

I've had my 935 for a few days now (to replace a borked F3 I don't have time to fix. On the plus side, it's a surprisingly nice upgrade!). One thing I notice is that, with the altimeter in Auto mode, the altimeter doesn't seem to track even relatively fast changes at all. Like, if I go down the stairs, the altitude stays right where it is and doesn't notice the sudden 10' change. This is coupled, of course, with a general failure to count flights of stairs - I might take 30 in a day, but only see 3-5 on the watch. I do usually take two steps at a time, so perhaps that's throwing it off? But it seems like that should still be easy enough to algorithmically classify as a staircase, at least for full flights. If I fix the altimeter mode to "Altimeter", the problem seems to go away (tough to test, since the watch seems to filter out rapid up/down/up/down), both in the altimeter reactivity (as one would expect) and in the steps counting (also as I'd expect). But in Auto mode, it seems never to get the memo that I'm moving, even if I'm moving pretty aggressively.

What's also odd is, with the watch left in Auto, the altimeter seems to remain quite accurate over the long term; it seems to always be within 10 feet or so of actual reference elevation as checked against a map source. Which is to say, it doesn't seem to be missing the staircases as altitude events rather than pressure changes, it must be counting them. But if so, why doesn't it seem to keep up in the short term?

FWIW, in Auto mode, as soon as I get in the car, altitude starts reacting pretty much immediately.
  • Personally (and I will be quoting myself) the altimeter and stair climbing have not been.....reliable. Not on any of my watches that had it. I've climbed stairs taking a shower, in the middle of a cardio routine (with no climbing), Laying on my couch. I once apparently climbed 80'ish flights of stairs in the shower. Seriously I saw the "goal" pop on my screen and checked it after I was done. I though maybe I was right on the cusp of the goal...but when I saw 80'ish flights, I knew something was wrong. I also leave it on auto like you so either the pressure near me is crazy....or these features don't reliably work. (I also owned a F3HR...it did the same thing).

    I wish I could tell you more, but after awhile I just stopped trying to get it to consistently work.
  • I've climbed stairs taking a shower, in the middle of a cardio routine (with no climbing), Laying on my couch. I once apparently climbed 80'ish flights of stairs in the shower.


    I wonder, was that on the F3? I can imagine droplets hitting the pressure port on the side could potentially cause a lot of pressure noise. Though I'd expect a good algorithm to be able to throw that out.

    Anyway, like I said, I just find it so odd that the absolute altitude over time seems so accurate in Auto, yet it can't pick out the discrete, relatively quick changes.
  • This has happened across every watch i've owned from Garmin that comes with an altimeter. The issue was far more pronounced on the Fenix 3HR, but each of the issues I cited in my prior post have happened on this forerunner 935. Perfect example was I climbed 5 flights of stairs early today (while also hitting my stair goal) while I was standing in place after the workout I just completed. The only thing I raised was my arms to take off my chest strap and I hit my goal. After I walked into the next room over (same floor), I checked again and I had climbed an additional 4 flights. It must have been off at the time as I was getting an elevation reading of approx 1700 ft, while my normal for this place is around 1038 ft.

    I didn't bother to recalibrate, as I said above; it's not reliable. Good luck.
  • This has happened across every watch i've owned from Garmin that comes with an altimeter.


    Yeah, since this morning when I posted, I went on a run. Before the run, 5 flights. When I got back, 20. And I don't think any of it was 45 degrees-hilly.
  • My floors count has been mostly accurate. But it does miss a few here and there.

    What I notice is, when I am climbing up the stairs in my building, if I go really fast, like kind of run up in a hurry, it does not count the floors. But when I climb at a normal pace, then it seems to be accurate enough. This morning I climbed up 3 floors in a hurry and got 0. Then second time around, I got 1.
    But otherwise, mostly ok.

    Another thing I notice is, when it rains, sometimes I get couple of extra floors, I am assuming it's probably due to pressure change throwing the calculation off..