Why is pace different in workout data screen how can I edit this screen?

It shows a pace (on which alerts like "slow"/"fast" are based) which is different that the pace I have on other data screens (and, yes, I'm sure I didn't chose avg, lap or other paces but simply "pace"). Why?

I don't know, but I had the same experience with the old 310XT. The pace on the workout screen was different than on other data screens. I never understood the reason for it and I was close to being sure that this was a bug in the 310XT firmware, but now seeing that it is the same on another, much later device, I think there must be some explanation to it. I'll try to delve into this issue.

2) How can I edit this data screen?

I don't think you can, but cannot say for sure, as I never tried it.

1) It shows a pace (on which alerts like "slow"/"fast" are based) which is different that the pace I have on other data screens (and, yes, I'm sure I didn't chose avg, lap or other paces but simply "pace").

I don't have a FR735XT to test, but I'm pretty sure that is effectively the Lap Pace (among from the selectable data fields).

See https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?347075-Pace-Alert-Average-Pace#post825458

2) How can I edit this data screen?

You can't customise that particular data screen.

I doesn't show HR rate so I have to keep switching screens when I run and it's pretty annoying.

Try enabling auto-scrolling so that you don't have to manually switch between screens.

Or you can set up one of the configurable data screens to show Heart Rate alongside Lap Pace, but without the benefit of the countdown (or yet-to-go) aspect of the timer (or distance) data field for the current workout step.

virginy centro

thank you for your reply.

I thought the pace was varying rapidly so I didn't think it could be the lap pace, but I could be wrong.
I'll do some more tests and let you know.
To be honest it sometime showed odd values at the beginning of a lap so it could well be that having only a few seconds available it was fooled by gps inaccuracy which confirms what you are saying. I find it strange though, I'd like to be alerted on matching the workout goal based on my current pace, wouldn't it make more sense?

It's a pity they don't allow to add HR to the workout screen. If you are doing repetitions that's the screen you want watch.
I use auto lap at 1km and standard data screen with lap pace filed sticks to that (I think) while my workout has laps of different lengths and I see them correctly only on the workout data screen. Unless... if I disable auto lap will the lap pace stick to the workout lap?

I also don't find auto scroll particularly handy due to the presence of other unnecessary screens which I don't want to bother to turn off every time I choose to do a workout as I need them in other cases.

To be honest it sometime showed odd values at the beginning of a lap so it could well be that having only a few seconds available it was fooled by gps inaccuracy which confirms what you are saying.

I don't have time to find the particular post(s) right now, sorry, but someone else (possibly TIMGROSE) has mentioned that the Lap Pace takes on the value of Pace for the first so many seconds of a new lap.

I find it strange though, I'd like to be alerted on matching the workout goal based on my current pace, wouldn't it make more sense?

That's… arguable. For some, a “run 2km at 5′05″ per km pace” workout step may be motivated by said pace being the threshold pace and he/she wants to stay at that; for others (like my girlfriend), a “run 5km at 5′40″ per km pace″ workout step means that is his/her 5km pace, and the objective may be to learn to pace oneself and/or slow down to compensate for early over-exertion so that the entire 5km can be achieved.

if I disable auto lap will the lap pace stick to the workout lap?

Yes. I don't use auto-lap personally (and, in actual fact, hate it with a passion), so it has never been an issue for me, except after a factory reset of the watch and I forgot to disable the damn auto-lap that was enabled by default.

I also don't find auto scroll particularly handy due to the presence of other unnecessary screens which I don't want to bother to turn off every time I choose to do a workout as I need them in other cases.

As a user and/or a consumer, it's always up to you (and me, so I'm not singling you out) to make the compromise between what's on offer, instead of holding and expressing a personal ideal and then expect to be accommodated.

very helpful indeed, thanks again!

> I don't have time to find the particular post(s) right now, sorry, but someone else (possibly TIMGROSE) has mentioned that the Lap Pace takes on the value of Pace for the first so many seconds of a new lap.

Yes 20 secs I believe. It does this because trying to provide an average over such a small time period would not be very accurate.

> I don't have time to find the particular post(s) right now, sorry, but someone else (possibly TIMGROSE) has mentioned that the Lap Pace takes on the value of Pace for the first so many seconds of a new lap.

Yes 20 secs I believe. It does this because trying to provide an average over such a small time period would not be very accurate.

Ha really interesting. I've run by lap pace for years and my experience has been that it stabilises after 200-300 meters into the lap. Before that it's not very believable.

This is just that data of one person though so i don't really know. But it's something close to that.

If you have a screen with lap time, lap pace, current pace then you can look to see what happens! After 20 secs lap pace should then be different to current pace.

200 or 300 metres is obviously a bit longer (well for most of us!) but makes sense as lap pace may still be a bit "jumpy" after 20 secs.

Hi guys, I disabled auto-lap and did again my repetitions workout with a screen customized to show lap pace and current pace at the same. The behaviour now is the one you describe. And I have 2 more fields for lap distance and HR, so I'm pretty fine like this for this kind of work.
Thanks again :D
Davide

One more question about swim mode

Hi again,

there's one more thing I puzzled about. This is the summary of my lap swimming:
41:17
Time
41:18
Moving Time
42:33
Elapsed Time

80 laps freestyle in 25m pool taken in a single stretch with no rests and even no unwanted stops as I was alone in the pool.

Shouldn't "Time" be less than "Elapsed Time" only if I pressed the lap button to take a rest?
Is there perhaps an auto-pause so sensitive to take away about 1s per lap as I turn around (I don't tumble, I grab the border and push myself right away)?
But in that case shouldn't it make "Moving Time" smaller than "Time", rather than "Time" smaller than "Elapsed Time"?
Could I disable it? I didn't find anything like that.
Finally what is the damned time it took me to swim my 2k?
Thanks again
Davide