Is it possible to change the screen that appears when a run is paused? When I manually pause my run, all I can see it the timer. I can no longer see distance (or HR). Is it possible to edit the pause screen metrics to show distance when paused? My old Forerunner 110 showed the time and distance when paused, which I found to be very useful.
Same. I find it interesting (based on another closed thread) that Garmin veterans seem to generally be fine with back button = lap, but new users such as myself often make mistakes and thus are afraid of it. As someone that doesn't use manual laps at all, I'd even be fine with an option to disable it completely if there wasn't another button pattern that made sense. Hot keys on the 645 would certainly be nice.
Zach -It's actually simple when you know that when a menu is displayed, back just removes it (goes "back"). It's the same for any menu on the device, and in many apps and widgets. It's a common UI on the watch.
Changing the manual lap from the back button would not only mean re-training thousands and thousands of users, but what would you use instead? A single, simple button press is best as it's easy to do while on the move. Up? Down? Start?
Have you used a Garmin device with hotkeys?. In this case, devices with Hotkeys work EXACTLY the same! If a menu is showing, back takes it down. If you are recording, "back" is used to mark a lap.
In the closed thread, he was looking for a way to access the widget loop from within a native application, and not the same thing at all...
I agree that as far as I can tell, the rule "when in activity, back=lap unless menu displayed" is true and thus simple in concept. However, in reality it's not always so intuitive especially when paired with other features, and since the menu sometimes takes time to appear. Here's a few examples:
Notifications: Hitting back during a notification popup records a lap, rather than dismissing the notification as I'd expect.
Nested menus: e.g. when changing settings, you may be 5+ levels deep. It's natural to hit back a bunch of times to get out, but in doing so you're likely to accidentally record a lap.
Auto-pause: When paused, the back button records a lap. Especially since the menu takes a long time to show after a Stop unless you hit back to show it immediately, it's easy to accidentally hit back after a Pause thinking you'll make the menu appear. Combine that with the slight oddities of auto-pause like how it can pause immediately after you hit start, and that hitting start/stop while paused causes it to stop rather than start... and at least for myself it becomes easy to make a mistake.
I'm not proposing that the default should necessarily change - as a software developer I understand the importance of keeping existing customers happy and not making surprising breaking changes. I also do think that eventually you get used to it and rarely make a mistake. However, given the large number of threads a web search for "garmin accidental lap" comes up with, it'd be nice if there were options for those of us who don't care about a "single, simple button press" for manual laps. I agree no other single button makes sense - but others may be happy with a long press, multiple buttons, or nothing besides the menu. My understanding of hotkeys was that if you also had the ability to disable the lap button, hotkeys would let you achieve this. I have not used a Garmin device with hotkeys though, so I apologize if I'm incorrect here.
After looking a bit, it appears Garmin has heard this feedback for Fenix watches (e.g. fenix 3 and f?nix 5/5S - Turning On and Off the Lap Key), so there must have been enough others that feel the same. I understand there are more reasons back=lap can be annoying for triathalon / multisport workouts and maybe that's why Garmin did it, but I'm simply hoping that they decide to also port this feature to the 645.
1). For them, you see a down indication on the screen as part of the UI 2) Just don't hit back so many times! ! :) 3) Auto pause and manual pause are different. You don't have the menu with an auto pause.
Yes, on some other devices you can turn off manual lap, and that's really not anything new.
As a techie, understand this is a new and complex device to you and there can be a bit of a learning curve. :)
Zach, I agree to what you said. I am also afraid of using the back button during an activity for those same reasons.
Your #2 is not as simple as jim makes it. On my Fenix 3 (before it ended at the bottom of the Baltic Sea) I have sometimes been caught by activity notifications appearing while I was using the back button to get back into the activity. And that caused a lap to be recorded. I am not completely sure about the exact circumstances needed for replicating that behaviour.
Anyway, for your #2, I came up with a workaround that I started using all the time, also because it was actually quicker than pressing the back button 5 times. I don't know if it will also work on your 645:
Long press the lower left button. You will now see the watch face.
Short press the upper right button. You will now be back in your activity.
