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Heart Rate Monitor can't fix on heart rate

Former Member
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Hi, I have returned to using my 235 after an absence of about a year (Apple Watch—nice device, but in the end I prefer the Garmin stats.). In the intervening period there have been firmware updates, all of which I have applied to the 235.

But something weird is happening.

My 235 rarely gets a HR fix for me, whereas it always used to. Let me explain a little more. I leave the watch (non activity tracking) on my desk between runs. When I am getting ready to run I put it on my wrist, get changed, potter around etc., probably up and down stairs a couple of times—so I'm usually fairly warm. When I go outside to run, I'll enter the activity screen and get a GPS fix within seconds. I then walk maybe 200 yards or so to the start of my route, and very rarely has the watch got a stable HR by then. The attached picture is a good example of what happens if I start to run before the fix. Note that even though I had to stop at around 3.5 miles for a crossing, it still didn't pick up the correct HR thereafter.

But here's the thing. If I switch the watch completely off, and then back on again, it generally can fix. I have noticed two behaviours that may be contributory factors.

1. When I pick up my watch from the desk and put it on, even if I toggle to the heart rate reading rarely do the green lights come on (I prise it up at the edge to peek!). When they do it seems to start its 'hunt' around 100 BPM and goes upwards from there. Since my resting heart rate is 45-50, and even after walking/milling around only up towards 60, it's never going to get it then.

2. When I switch on from cold it starts the hunt at 72 but immediately drops lower and can then get a fix.

I guess I could simply get used to switching on and off between runs but this shouldn't be necessary on an expensive and high tech piece of kit.

Any ideas whet might be going on here?

Thanks,

David ciq.forums.garmin.com/.../1471735.png
  • Try enter the activity (don't press start yet) when you put your watch on, and then continue to get ready. For me, that is what I do ... I'll usually get my GPS signal sometime during this time too. Then just before I start running, I sit on my stairs by my front door for minute or so watching my HR ... it will usually be way off (too high) because I've been up and down stairs, changing clothes, tying shoes ... the HR soon begins to fall due to sitting still and then 'snaps' into mid 60's and stabilizes there. Now I go outside and press START and begin to run.

    Total time spent waiting on my steps waiting for HR to stabilize is less than 2 minutes. Don't have to wait for GPS because it connected while I was getting ready. Makes a HUGE difference in the HR readings during the run. If I don't do this, my run's HR is often garbage.

    Max
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    Hi, I'll give that a go thanks. What's odd is that I don't recall having these issues before my absence of a year—it's as if there's been a software/firmware update in the interim that has thrown in off. Also it's a little irksome that I have to sit around giving the watch time to sort itself out whereas other devices (e.g. Apple Watch) get HR lock so much quicker and are worn on the same place on my wrist.

    But I'll see if starting it early in the house makes an appreciable difference. If not I guess I may have to fall back again to the Apple Watch, although I'd be disappointed if that's the case.
  • I used to be able to just start the activity and go, but that was more than a year ago if I recall correctly. The most important thing is the sitting still on the steps for a minute or 2 to let the watch lock onto the correct HR - you know your sitting HR so you'll know it when you see it. An extra minute or 2 sucks but isn't the end of the world ... for me anyway. If I do this my HR readings are excellent 90% of the time.

    EDIT: Also make sure that your watch is taking a reading "Every Second" rather than "smart" ... Run/Menu/Settings/Systems/Data Recording ... that will make a difference too.

    Max
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi David,

    I am having exactly the same issue as you are, especially after looking at your attached picture. This messes up information about my VO2 max and its getting annoying at this stage because of the frequency at which its now happening (i run 6 times a week, and every second run now has a messed up HR during this month. Did Max's  advice help, or did you  manage to get a solution? Hoping to hear from you

    Regards,

    Brian