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All intervals marked as "Active" despite "Rest" being set in workout

Former Member over 7 years ago

My FR230 seems to mark all intervals in my workout as "Active". I used to use iSmoothRun on my phone and had interval workouts. I would upload those to sporttrack and it knew which laps were active versus rest. It would actually show your recovered heart rate for the recovery lap(s) plus let you select the active intervals for viewing.

When I started running with my FR, I uploaded the workout via the connection to Garmin COnnect and all my intervals were now marked active! I noticed through testing that when I uploaded my iSR workout as a tcx to Garmin, GC would show all intervals to active. I compared the original iSR .tcx file with an export of that workout from GC and noticed the "REST" laps were now marked as "ACTIVE".

So I figured GC was the culprit and I uploaded the fit file from the watch directly to sporttrack. Turns out it too had all laps as active.

I've played around and created workouts and it doesn't matter if I use "Rest","Recover","Cooldown" they are all active. Even just using the interval setting on the watch generates the same thing. Looks like at some point Garmin decided the just make all laps Active for some reason.

Granted this isn't the end of the world but it seems like such a simple thing to leave out. Anyone else bothered by this or have an alternative?

0 chunkywizard over 7 years ago

Sounds like this is a SportTrack thing, rather than a Garmin thing. As far as I know, looking in Garmin Connect there is no way to flag active and rest laps. If that's true you should ask SportsTrack as maybe the change is there rather than with Garmin.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

As far as I know

Then perhaps you should educate yourself by reading the basic document "D00001309 FIT File Types Description Rev 2.2.pdf" from eg. FitSDKRelease_20.38.00.zip

It's a freakin standard...

"8.1.3.5 Workout Intensity
The workout_steps intensity field differentiates between sets that are designated for warm up, recovery, active and cool down. The intensity field does not affect target or duration values, but tracking the intensity field allows the program designer to calculate the total amount of active time within a workout."

Or as they put it in the fit_example.h file:

typedef FIT_ENUM FIT_INTENSITY;
#define FIT_INTENSITY_INVALID                                                   
 FIT_ENUM_INVALID
#define FIT_INTENSITY_ACTIVE                                                     ((FIT_INTENSITY)0)
#define FIT_INTENSITY_REST                                                       ((FIT_INTENSITY)1)
#define FIT_INTENSITY_WARMUP                                                     ((FIT_INTENSITY)2)
#define FIT_INTENSITY_COOLDOWN                                                   ((FIT_INTENSITY)3)
#define FIT_INTENSITY_COUNT                                                      4

The Forerunner 620 honoured those flags, but with the FR630 Garmin dropped the ball altogether. One of the many bugs and indifferences from the Forerunner section that has made me swear off that branch forever. I'll try the Fenix brand this year instead.

0 chunkywizard over 7 years ago

Thanks for the partial quote Fletnix. I said 'As far as I know, looking in Garmin Connect there is no way to flag active and rest laps', which I believe to be correct. Garmin support their own ecosystem first and foremost and so if there is no use for those flags (within their own ecosystem) you can see why they might not include them.

Should they be be compliant to the (full) ANT+ standard? Well the spec on their website doesn't mention it explicitly but does than an ANT+ logo on it, so maybe.

The best thing the OP can do is email Garmin via their website and ask that they support them, but the chances are slim as I suspect there are not many others this affects.

by the way, you know Fenix and Forerunners now share the same software don't you? If you think migrating to the Fenix brand is going to solve all your issues, then I doubt it will.

0 Former Member over 7 years ago

Thanks for chiming in on this. It's definitely on the Garmin end. I contacted Garmin support and they ignored the case. I contacted Sporttracks.mobi, and they confirmed that the FIT file out of the FR230 definitely marks all intervals as active but that wasn't always the case. On the positive side, at least Sporttracks lets me flag rest intervals so I can filter active versus rest, plus it gives me a heart rate recovery value on the rest laps.

I'm likely in the in the minority in looking for this but I got a answer and a work around. Between that and the fact that my reports page and widgets haven't worked in a couple of weeks and support can't figure out why, I may have to shell out some money and move back to Sporttracks.