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How "bad" should I expect the wrist heart rate to be?

Former Member
Former Member
Hello,

I just got my FR235. It's my first Garmin device.

I was a polar user for over 8 years, and never had complaints regarding HR values, always seemed to be good (RS200/RX300/V800). I decided to try Garmin due to the lack of Polar's customer support and the delay they fix bugs, not to mention never responding to feature requests.

But now I am a bit disappointed with the HR values I get from FR235. I was expecting a variation or delays in measurement, but not completely off values. I have to mention that the measurements look correct when I am not exercising.

Here, for ~3 km (from km 5) the watch showed an 180 BPM HR, which was not the case - not to mention these were intervals (8 x (1k + 0.5)). I think the last part was relatively OK but there's still no slow-down on the recovery parts . 5 degrees Celsius, in the morning.
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1381908807


Here, the HR is almost flat, around 130 BPM, with some portions of 80-90 BPM. This was supposed to be all between 150-160, already knowing the effort, it was more of a tempo run for me. 8 degrees Celsius, in the morning.
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1384544164

So, how bad should I expect these values to be? Is this normal for this watch in cold weather - and should I also get a chest strap (I would be a downside)? Or is, maybe, the watch broken?


Thanks,
Costa
  • Most of the problems I have with oHRM come when it's cold. And the weird thing is that it's seems to be more important to keep my hands warm than my arms.
  • In terms of overall averages the wrist monitor works moderately well. However for higher intensity exercises it can really be flakey. Part of the reason for this is the LEDs consume battery energy and I have seen some indications that the watch still uses polling of the heart rate during a run. Because if I'm not wearing my chest monitor I will typically see my heart rate shoot up nearly instantly to my average heart rate for that pace rather than building slowly. I've also found you have to have the wrist band quite snug or the wrist monitor will go into a "cadence lock" where it reads the heart rate as the movement of the watch on your wrist PLUS the actual heart rate with a result of very high readings.

    Now a note on chest monitors. Most of which is something you are quite aware of being a long term user. First, if the chest strap become salt saturated beyond a certain point the readings in my experience seem to go way high. However posts on the Net indicate they can also go low or drop out totally. BTW, my experience is the low readings are a result of a battery that needs to be replaced. Because what I've found to correct a chest monitor reading low is a new battery. For me what keeps the chest straps reading accurately is a soak in a bowl of water overnight after every workout and a cycle in the wash with a load of clothes once a week. If I let that weekly washing slide then I'll find the chest monitor will go into a cycle of reading way high that can sometimes be corrected by "snapping" the monitor on my chest. Garmin won't like seeing this but I've also found the Polar chest strap to be much more sweat resistant than Garmin's soft strap and the Garmin monitor will snap into a Polar Soft Strap. Hope you kept your Polar straps.

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  • As a long term Polar user, I don't know why you'd consider going back to a chest strap a downgrade. The chest strap will always give the best heart rate readings.

    I also was a long term Polar user and had no issues sticking with a strap due to the lower accuracy of the optical heart rate. I used a strap for so long, sticking with one didn't bother me.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 8 years ago
    Chest strap does it :)

    Hello again,

    Sorry for not answering this in time, I have no excuses...
    The solution for me was, indeed, another chest strap. I hoped the wrist measurements would show at least a real median value, which was not the case.
    I was disappointed because I quite often forget to put the chest strap on, and either have to run without it or, especially annoying in the winter, have to dig between layers to put it back on.

    I have actually bought a cheap one, the Geonaute bluetooth/ANT+. I am quite satisfied with it.
    Thanks for the tip with the Polar straps, I'll keep that in mind.

    I will keep the wrist HR for monitoring my RHR, which is quite neat but never really cared for when using Polar's strap.
    All in all, I find FR235 to be much more appropriate for me than Polar's V800.
    Setting interval workouts is a number of times easier, and I also can see the average pace for those intervals, which is what I wished for (and were not available for V800). Ran the Bucharest Marathon a week ago with this setup and the distance measurement looked also better than V800 measurements last year (42.5 km vs 42.8 km) on almost the same pace - I have also seen that usually FR235 tends to do a better approximation of a trace, although the v800 GPS specs are generally better.

    Best Regards,
    Costa