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Firmware Version 4.10 Discussion Thread

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I just installed; all seems fine so far. Since the sticky announcement is closed, post your experiences here.

Sticky: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?344357-Firmware-Version-4-10-Now-Available!
  • My experience with the HRM is similar to what has been reported. If I press the down arrow on my watch, it goes to 72 and then settles back down to my real HR. I think the trouble is that for those of us with HRs significantly different than 72, it takes longer for it to settle than the watch stays on that screen.

    All I know is that my RHR, which I used to test first thing every morning on my iphone, used to be between 39-44. When I first bought the 235, I got similar results. Then, since they addressed the battery drain issue, my RHR has been all over the place. Some mornings I wake from a sound sleep and RHR is 57. Other days it's 46. That's definitely not right for it to swing that much based on my previous samplings.

    After updating my watch to 4.10 yesterday, I went to bed, woke at around 4:00am, clicked the down arrow, and got a reading of 39. Interestingly, the screen stayed active for several minutes instead of flipping back like it usually does. I think that helped the reading to be more accurate. However, the low stayed at 47 even though the RHR read 39.

    Now (later in the day), I click the down arrow and it goes back to the main watch screen just like it used to. So I don't know if it was a fluke or what. I'm just wondering if, as soon as the watch goes back to main screen, the HR stops sampling. And if 72 is too far different than a low of 39, the watch does not stay active long enough to capture the true low. I have noticed that if I keep looking at the watch and see that it flips back, I can click the down arrow again quickly and have the watch not go back to the 72. This is way too much work to do something that should be automatic. I'd be happy if they could even set the watch to check two times in the middle of the night for 2 minutes each. I don't have to have continuous readings. However, in having to actively click the down arrow, my pulse automatically goes up because I am angry about it. :-)

    It's amazing to me that we have to keep trouble shooting and guessing on our own. Didn't they have some people test these things out ahead of time before they sold these? Surely this would have been uncovered.
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    My experience with the HRM is similar to what has been reported. If I press the down arrow on my watch, it goes to 72 and then settles back down to my real HR. I think the trouble is that for those of us with HRs significantly different than 72, it takes longer for it to settle than the watch stays on that screen.

    All I know is that my RHR, which I used to test first thing every morning on my iphone, used to be between 39-44. When I first bought the 235, I got similar results. Then, since they addressed the battery drain issue, my RHR has been all over the place. Some mornings I wake from a sound sleep and RHR is 57. Other days it's 46. That's definitely not right for it to swing that much based on my previous samplings.



    Gail, if you switch to the HR widget by pressing the down-arrow. Then hold-down the up-arrow and scroll to select 'Broadcast Heart Rate', it will then sample continuously until you exit the 'Broadcast' screen -- even for hours and hours. I turn on Broadcast mode as soon as I wake up, then turn it off an hour or so later, and it always gives good, consistent RHR values because it's sampling continuously the whole time. It doesn't even drain that much battery -- if you leave it on all day it'll drain 30-40% of your battery life, not a big deal if you charge every night like me.

    The only problem is that you can't display a normal watch-face while doing this. So, it's an annoyance, to be sure, but if you want good RHR data with the FR235 you can get it this way.
  • Gail, if you switch to the HR widget by pressing the down-arrow. Then hold-down the up-arrow and scroll to select 'Broadcast Heart Rate', it will then sample continuously until you exit the 'Broadcast' screen -- even for hours and hours. I turn on Broadcast mode as soon as I wake up, then turn it off an hour or so later, and it always gives good, consistent RHR values because it's sampling continuously the whole time. It doesn't even drain that much battery -- if you leave it on all day it'll drain 30-40% of your battery life, not a big deal if you charge every night like me.

    The only problem is that you can't display a normal watch-face while doing this. So, it's an annoyance, to be sure, but if you want good RHR data with the FR235 you can get it this way.


    For me it doesn't worked - yes, it shows more consistent line but the RHR data although stays little bit lower my real numbers at the moment and even in Garmin Connect value is more reliable but again not correct - sometimes it drops to 42 while my ever minimum was smth like 46-48.

    Another odd thing that if rhr calculated daily -after 0:00 o'clock (e.g. 0:30) I could see smth like 52 RHR and the lowerst for last 4 hours 60... How it could be???

    So, my idea that algorythm of 235 (and GC also) is not correct... And with new 4.10 it make the same errors:-(
  • Since 4.10 I have had the 72bpm issue sometimes but othertimes not.
    I have also had the stuck on 66 and have to restart to get HRM working again.
    I have also had it showing double my true heart rate which didn't stop until a restart.
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    As TIMGROSE indicated, there were no changes to the Elevate heart rate sensor included in the 4.10 firmware update. Any changes/improvements to the Elevate heart rate sensor will come in a future software update specifically for the sensor hub. At this time there is not a specific release date for this software update.
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    For me it doesn't worked - yes, it shows more consistent line but the RHR data although stays little bit lower my real numbers at the moment and even in Garmin Connect value is more reliable but again not correct - sometimes it drops to 42 while my ever minimum was smth like 46-48.

    Another odd thing that if rhr calculated daily -after 0:00 o'clock (e.g. 0:30) I could see smth like 52 RHR and the lowerst for last 4 hours 60... How it could be???

    So, my idea that algorythm of 235 (and GC also) is not correct... And with new 4.10 it make the same errors:-(


    While we are talking about RHR, why is the trend in GC different to the last 7 day trend shown on the watch as well as the average itself?

    Watch - Last 7 days RHR = 46
    GC - Last 7 day average = 51

    The daily points for the RHR are different in both. Surely this is basic stuff. How does GC come up with a different value to the watch?
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    As TIMGROSE indicated, there were no changes to the Elevate heart rate sensor included in the 4.10 firmware update. Any changes/improvements to the Elevate heart rate sensor will come in a future software update specifically for the sensor hub. At this time there is not a specific release date for this software update.


    Has there been any adjustment to the wild calorie burns and integration with My Fitness pal?
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    Has there been any adjustment to the wild calorie burns and integration with My Fitness pal?


    Not with this software update. Those things are still being actively worked on.
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    Calorie count is still not fixed for me on this update. It must be over estimating by 50-80%. I have it tied into MFP and by then it's doubled again. I know it's an estimate but it's useless. There is no correlation between my activity level for the day and what Garmin feels I've done. I've written to both Garmin and MFP and my emails must have gone into the customer service black hole.
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    The only problem is that you can't display a normal watch-face while doing this. So, it's an annoyance, to be sure, but if you want good RHR data with the FR235 you can get it this way.


    There's an app called Heart Alarm that will continuously sample HR while showing a reasonably nice looking watch face. Simple to start in the morning and leave running all day (and night) if you like. Takes about a day and a half to drain the battery.

    https://apps.garmin.com/en-AU/apps/c14851dd-00cb-43c8-921d-6d1e5888eea0

    And another called DomiPulse:

    https://apps.garmin.com/en-AU/apps/99298633-efd0-4c6f-b2db-782b6aa89e03