I've been using the 230 coupled with a MIO Link for a week now and mostly liking what I see. This is the first Garmin I've had that uses a "Recovery Advisor". I'm not sure I understand it's use. To day after a run, it gave me a 43 hour recovery time. Am I seriously expected to wait this amount of time before I run again? How does it figure the length of time.
I've been using the 230 coupled with a MIO Link for a week now and mostly liking what I see. This is the first Garmin I've had that uses a "Recovery Advisor". I'm not sure I understand it's use. To day after a run, it gave me a 43 hour recovery time. Am I seriously expected to wait this amount of time before I run again? How does it figure the length of time.
For some more information on the Recovery Advisor use the following link:
support.garmin.com/.../simpleCase.htm
The device uses your heart rate information to determine the recommended number of hours that you should wait before doing another run with that type of intensity. The harder the run, the more hours the device will recommend before doing another run at that same intensity.
Looked at the link, but it told me very little. Does this mean it's a recommendation to do no training during that time or just not to train at that level. If so what level is safe to train at during that time. If I took the Recovery Advisior to mean to training I could only train every other day.
Looked at the link, but it told me very little. Does this mean it's a recommendation to do no training during that time or just not to train at that level. If so what level is safe to train at during that time. If I took the Recovery Advisior to mean to training I could only train every other day.
The recommendation is to wait to do a workout of the same intensity. It is also just a recommendation that can be ignored if you prefer to train at a higher intensity more often.
Have always taken it to be until the next "hard" workout. In practice, for me, "hard" is something more than an easy/steady run.
That said you could get a "long" recovery time after a "long" easy/run.
Either way, if it is working well, you should not feel inclined to do much more than a shortish easy run as a "recovery" run during the recovery period.
Also, as a rule of thumb, if you can avoid hard days back to back, the recovery hours will probably have got to zero by time of your next hard day.
I have also found that going for run can reset the recovery hours as the watch can reanalyse how it thinks you are doing on that next run.
Have always taken it to be until the next "hard" workout. In practice, for me, "hard" is something more than an easy/steady run.
That said you could get a "long" recovery time after a "long" easy/run.
Either way, if it is working well, you should not feel inclined to do much more than a shortish easy run as a "recovery" run during the recovery period.
Also, as a rule of thumb, if you can avoid hard days back to back, the recovery hours will probably have got to zero by time of your next hard day.
I have also found that going for run can reset the recovery hours as the watch can reanalyse how it thinks you are doing on that next run.
Thanks, Great explanations. I think I understand how to use it now.
I've had my FR230 for about 2 weeks, and it's my first Garmin, so I'm new to all of this. My old HRM was just that - a Timex sports watch with HRM
I'm a cross country skier, and then primarily bike & run in the summer. Right now we're in that intermediate ski/run season, so I'm skiing (skate skiing) under "other" and running under "outdoor run".
My question is this: is the Recovery Advisor a really complicated algorithm that looks at your accumulated data, and then uses that in conjunction with your latest activity to make a recommendation? Or is it a much simpler thing, that only uses that most recent workout data? I ask because Friday at 6 pm I finished a 12.5km ski where I pushed myself fairly hard for the entire time. When I was done, my TE was 5, and my recovery time was 72 hours. Didn't feel that grueling, but ok. The next morning at 11 am (17 hours later) I did a very easy 6km ski with my husband, with a bunch of stops, and low heart rate, then another 4 km alone, where I moderately pushed myself. TE was 3.0 at the end, Recovery Advisor said 24 hours.
So, did I really recover that well (shaved 30 hours off my projected recovery time overnight?) or was the RA on day 2 really just based on that one workout? Or maybe I haven't used it long enough for it to be really trained to me? Right now I'm kind of looking at RA and the Vo2 max from the watch as rough idea, fun factoids, rather than real data. Just curious how technical this thing is. Maybe RA is just something that helps assign a value to an analysis you could do in your head based on HR zone information?
My question is this: is the Recovery Advisor a really complicated algorithm that looks at your accumulated data, and then uses that in conjunction with your latest activity to make a recommendation? Or is it a much simpler thing, that only uses that most recent workout data?
My guess is that it isn't, given that the Recovery Advisor is ready to give a recommendation from immediately after the first workout you do wearing a new watch and without a history in Garmin Connect.
Just curious how technical this thing is. Maybe RA is just something that helps assign a value to an analysis you could do in your head based on HR zone information?
The Forerunner 230/235 Owner's Manual states, “Recovery advisor technology is provided and supported by Firstbeat.” So you might want to look at Firstbeat's publications on the subject:
So, did I really recover that well (shaved 30 hours off my projected recovery time overnight?) or was the RA on day 2 really just based on that one workout? Or maybe I haven't used it long enough for it to be really trained to me? Right now I'm kind of looking at RA and the Vo2 max from the watch as rough idea, fun factoids, rather than real data. Just curious how technical this thing is. Maybe RA is just something that helps assign a value to an analysis you could do in your head based on HR zone information?
I can confirm with my FR 235 that the recovery advisor only remembers the recommendation for your last workout, and resets every time you have a new workout, it would be interesting if it could truly keep track of your recovery across several sessions.
It wouldn't really make sense to take any previous ‘balance’ of recovery time into account, if all that the watch/algorithm needs is your HR response to your most recent workout to assess your physical condition.
