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Resting Heart Rate (RHR) pretty useless - proof it!

RHR is an very important number, you see this number increasing you are probably overtraining, or getting sick. Also your training zones depend on that number.

To bad, when you own a device that pretends to measure RHR but never does really. That's the case with the FR235 since the battery improvement firmware update!

I usually have RHR around 45, before the update I got very reliable numbers between 44 and 47, each day. Right after the update I got a jump to around 55, and it stayed there with numbers between 48 and 59!

I can get you an 50 just by sitting there, so that seems clearly wrong. To prove that, I switched the FR 235 to broadcasting mode and left it on during the night. RHR next morning: 43! Back to the normal mode, after next night, 53! Just to be clear:

1. night - normal mode: RHR 55
2. night - broadcasting mode: RHR 43
3. night - normal mode: RHR 53

I invite everyone to do the same and let Garmin know the details. They can't measure it correctly anymore because the algorithm stop measuring when there is no movement, sucessfully screwing up the RHR scenario. RHR is measured when the body is completely resting!

Wrong RHR gives you wrong, not reliable signals on your training recovery as well as training intensity, that can be harmful when you overlook overtraining or sickness or train in the wrong zone.

Same is for the Vivosmart HR, DCRainmaker experienced the same issue (when he tested the FR235, it was with the old firmware, which gave ok numbers) http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/01/garmin-vivosmarthr-review.html
  • Completely agree but with some othe arguments: in my case the device itself make for me much lower measurement (atleast till yesterday when i put 2.41 WHR) - 41-45-46 - while for now it's about 50-55 (little sleep time for almost two years). And this 41-45 mostly catched not during sleep but more often after hard workouts on the cycling trainer or after shower when i put the watches on...

    More interesting - it seems that GC calculates HRR by itself and it shows more relyable data and trend - no 41 there, but 46 and 47 are there:-( (BTW - GCM just crashes on HR page for me)

    So, the graph in GC and 235 is different and not reliable...

    Pls. do something!

    PS. With 2.41 HR data shown online is not even close to reality - yesterday during activity it was like 120 while with strap it was 150, but the graph on the watches drew quite complete picture of my workout, so it seems that just output of the number of current HR is not working:-(
  • Have to admit that I now use HR broadcasting mode every time I want to get a good idea of my RHR - especially overnight.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    To be honest I'd be totally fine with an option to only record RHR when asleep at a much higher sampling rate, and the HRM off the rest of the time outside of activities (daily calories coming from steps only, say). Basically what you're already doing, Tim.
  • Yep, seeing dumb numbers here too. Crossing my fingers that they'll get a fix in.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    Have to admit that I now use HR broadcasting mode every time I want to get a good idea of my RHR - especially overnight.


    What is this? What does broadcasting do to improve getting RHR? Does it make the HR sample more often I assume? If so, I may leave that on until Garmin fixes the problem.
  • What is this? What does broadcasting do to improve getting RHR? Does it make the HR sample more often I assume? If so, I may leave that on until Garmin fixes the problem.


    In broadcast mode it samples continuously just like when you're in an activity. Battery drain will obviously be much higher than when in standby mode.

    You get to it by holding down the "up" button while on the HR widget and selecting "broadcast heart rate."
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    In broadcast mode it samples continuously just like when you're in an activity. Battery drain will obviously be much higher than when in standby mode.

    You get to it by holding down the "up" button while on the HR widget and selecting "broadcast heart rate."


    That's awesome, thanks for the tip. Guess I'll find out how much extra battery it uses.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    I've been doing this to get a more accurate RHR. This proves that people are willing to sacrifice battery life for correct readings and another reason to make HR sampling configurable.
  • That's awesome, thanks for the tip. Guess I'll find out how much extra battery it uses.


    From a full battery doing nothing else, my experience so far suggests you would get around about 30 hours in this mode. Certainly somewhere between 1 and 1.5 full days.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    From a full battery doing nothing else, my experience so far suggests you would get around about 30 hours in this mode. Certainly somewhere between 1 and 1.5 full days.


    I've lost 4% battery in two hours using this method. Not bad. It's a shame we have to do this to get proper HR sampling. User defined sampling options seems like the best way this can go for us, like others suggested in the thread you made : https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?339051-24x7-HR-Recording-What-do-you-actually-want