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Found a significant bug:

Yesterday, I logged a 13 mile walk as a "run" using my 235. I logged it as a run, as there is no hike or walk activity selection. I used my footpod and Garmin ANT+ Chest strap, as these are far more accurate than the watch (they need to fix this). I recorded just shy of 13 miles and 31,000 steps, and was dual gps'ing with GPS and GLONAS. All was well and good until this morning when I looked at my connect sync and noticed that it claims 30 miles and doubled the calories. It appears to me that it is taking the total steps and adding them into the formula after already logging them in the activity. This is incorrect. I noticed that my assumed active calories was also roughly doubled. This seems like it can be easily addressed, and MUST be. Has anybody else noticed this. Also, why no "hike" or "walk" activities?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    some others have a similar issue but not sure they were wearing a footpod at the same time as using a gps+hr run activity. GailNestor appeared to have double counting on a run https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?275946-Active-Calories-Report-is-broken&p=774123&highlight=gailnestor#post774123.

    there is an app in the IQ store for hiking and walking https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/39d3b5e8-67db-4517-93a8-5ec485269635
  • Here's an example from my data:

    Today:
    Run: 16,438 steps, 605 calories, 10.02 miles
    Daily Steps: 2,026 steps (I believe this to be true), 679 calories (um, no), 10.91 miles (are you kidding??)

    Saturday:
    Run: 30,840 steps, 1,164 calories, 20.01 miles
    Daily Steps: 4,922 steps, 1,007 calories, 17.97 miles

    These are definitely off.

    It's more apparent the longer the walk/run. Here's the thread where I first reported on this issue:
    https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?337435-Number-of-Daily-Steps-vs-Distance-(for-non-timed-activities)

    Here's another thread with some data examples that show this problem (for me) in the extreme.
    https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?339109-Double-counting-calories-FR235-or-Connect-Mobile-issue

    As it stands now, I have an open ticket in with Garmin. They seem confused every time I call about this, which I have done several times now. I am hopeful I will hear something back by Monday. I hope they will fix it quickly as I imagine it will help many others.

    I hope others will chime in here so this issue gets more traction. I have completely given up on calorie count being accurate at all for now.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    Here's an example from my data:

    I hope others will chime in here so this issue gets more traction. I have completely given up on calorie count being accurate at all for now.


    just curious....were you wearing a footpod or any other garmin device?
  • just curious....were you wearing a footpod or any other garmin device?


    No, I just wear my 235 watch and carry my iPhone in a Flipbelt. The watch seems to track very well on pace and distance. I'm still having problems with HR spikes and drops in the middle of steady runs on flat terrain, but the HRs for these two runs weren't too terribly out of a reasonable range. I do seem to burn relatively few calories on each run, but maybe it takes weight into account. I weigh about 112. It still is a bit frustrating to only burn 1,000 calories in running 20 miles. However, I believe it's probably fairly accurate since I have a terribly hard time losing even a single pound when I need to. :-(

    Interestingly, my cadence come in at an average of 193. I wonder how accurate that is. Also, it shows my VO2 max as 56 and at the top of the graph. Not sure I trust that either. I'm aiming for a 3:29 PB marathon time in about 2 months, so we'll see. :-)
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    No, I just wear my 235 watch and carry my iPhone in a Flipbelt. The watch seems to track very well on pace and distance.


    a crazy thought....you have an iphone so i assume the Apple Health app as part of IOS and the phone is in your flipbelt. If you open that health app on the phone and go to "sources" and is there a option "Connect", and if so under that the option under "Allow connect to read data" is the "Steps" slider off?
  • a crazy thought....you have an iphone so i assume the Apple Health app as part of IOS and the phone is in your flipbelt. If you open that health app on the phone and go to "sources" and is there a option "Connect", and if so under that the option under "Allow connect to read data" is the "Steps" slider off?


    Was thinking along the same lines, in that for some other "source" was recording the activity and feeding it into Garmin Connect, doubling the values. Same thing would happen if you recorded the same activity on two garmin devices that were linked to the same account.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago
    I confirm the bug, it happens in 3.30 firmware but not in 3.20.

    This capture is with 3.30, check the km in steps are the sum of "activity 11,18 km" + "walked km (2,79 km not shown, the difference between 13,97 and 11,18)", it should be only "walked 2,79 km". That is the reason for the incorrect total of 25 km, the real should be 13, 97 km. The same bug happens in calories.



    This capture is with 3.20, "walked km" and calories are correct and totals are also correct. No bug in 3.20 firmware version.

  • Was thinking along the same lines, in that for some other "source" was recording the activity and feeding it into Garmin Connect, doubling the values. Same thing would happen if you recorded the same activity on two garmin devices that were linked to the same account.


    Hmmm, that may just be it! I do have read/write permissions between the two. I just now turned those off, and I have a 16-miler today. I should be able to quickly see if that is it! Thanks for all the brainstorming. If it works, maybe we can help Garmin by telling them so they can pass it along to the others who don't read the forums and call them for help. :-)

    As for kiowa79's post, I am not sure when I upgraded from 3.20. I do know that I loaded the Beta 3.25 as soon as I saw it here. However, check out this image from December 26. The miles from Daily Steps are less than the miles from run steps, so it's not just a simple duplication of showing the run twice and the Daily Steps distance once.


    Be back in a few hours to report on the new data! :-)
  • Hmmm, that may just be it!



    I think it's due to something in your setup, as I've recorded quite a few activities with the 230, and have never seen what you describe, on any version of the FW. I have read about problems with the vivo devices, but it often involved iOS and the setup of the Apple Heath stuff. (I use Android)

    I've seen cases where someone used something like "MapMyRun", and feed data into MyFitnessPal, while recording on a Garmin device that's also feeding into MFP, and numbers for activities can get screwy as a result, as MFP passes on the MMR.data to Garmin.