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Edge 1030 keep turning itself back on from power off when USB is unplugged.

When an user explicitly go thru the trouble of holding the power button to turn off the Edge 1030, it means one wishes to ensure 1). all USB power goes into charging and not into acquiring GPS or displaying with backlit: e.g. like charging with a battery pack remotely; 2). one does not want to accidentally leave the device on only to find it drained right before a major ride/event because it had a mind of its own and powered on, especially if the cord got unplugged by accident or when one charges with a battery pack and the battery pack ran out of juice. All cell phones, dumb or smart, do this. Seem fairly common sense: if it off, leave it off. Can anyone at Garmin explain to me why a powered off Edge 1030 ex-flagship device has the "feature" of turning itself on, with backlit, when plugged into an USB, and stayed on after the USB is unplugged?

  • The 1030 will not turn on after charging if you use a plug in charger. It will turn on if you plug into a computer. For this reason, I always use a plug in charger. It also charges much faster.

  • Charge using a charger, don't charge using a computer. If you turn OFF the device (not sleep but shutdown by holding the power button and choosing Turn Off), then connect to a charger, it will display the charging status during charging but when completed it will turn off by itself and remain turned off, unless the power source is not stable and causes disconnects. But do not charge with a computer because it then senses the USB data signals (which are absent using a proper charger) and will connect to the computer, which is clearly not what you want. The Edge works great,  just learn to use it and be happy riding with it.

  • The Edge 1030 does not work “great” at all imo. I always charge mine with the charger when the device is off. It will shut off automatically when it’s charged and magically turn itself back on later. It used to be I was uncertain because maybe I accidentally touched a button when I removed it from the charger, but in the past couple of weeks I’ve been sitting near it when I know I checked to see that the screen was black and off the night before, and it will just suddenly turn on and boot up 24 hours or so later. In general, especially for the price, it’s been very poor at navigation as well for the year I’ve had it. Freezing, not announcing turns at the right time, possessing maps that are difficult to read and move around in (much worse than an iPhone or Google Maps), and often not able to find a location in a major metropolitan area. Not what I purchased it for at all. The only thing I like about it is the long battery life and the light at night. Original I’d hoped it was just a learning curve, but many of these issues are probably software-oriented and poor design. 

  • For me the most serious flaw is the occasional and unpredictable hang ups and reboots - not so frequent that I find the device unusable, but not so rare that it constantly hangs in the back of my mind that at some point in the middle or a long distance ride it is going to reset itself and break my ride into 2 parts. For that matter I have without fail always keep my Fenix 3 running, which interestingly, have not failed a single time in the middle of a ride (with the exception of accidental button press). The other are more forgivable but annoying - a). every 30 seconds or so the route (not the screen) refreshes by disappearing and then come back, leave me almost a full second with only map but no route info; b). UI is a pain and in-ride menu navigation is outright dangerous as the menu choices are very "chatty" and "verbose" as if the Garmin engineer has some menu button-fetish. If I am riding, and I want to quickly change to another course, I would need to go through layers of menu just to get there and by that time I'd probably hit a tree or went into a gutter. I am sticking with it for the battery life and the transreflective screen, and that's about the extend of my entire Edge 1030 loyalty.

  • Yes! You reminded me of other issues like the menu difficulties - you absolutely can’t do much while actually riding other than moving between Strava-type info and navigation screens, maybe something with temp, which I think is only on a separate screen (unlike a simple 520 where it can be included on the main screen). You have to stop in the dark and cold and start messing with old-fashioned automobile type searches that don’t work as well as the car GPS did. Just trying to do local searches now in the house. You can’t simply type in “Zoo” and find your local zoo, and if you don’t know the address you must know which category under POI they may have stuck it under and revisit that every time unless you remember to save it somewhere. I wonder if they have specific design teams for each device, because I also bought a Garmin 245 recently and that doesn’t have all these issues (although it doesn’t really navigate at all other than supplying a compass). To download the ride or walk or run or whatever to Strava I just hit “save” and it’s done, no fuss. With the 1030 I usually have to turn it back on after saving and OPEN Garmin Connect on my phone before it will download. Often I also have to go into the ride menu, find the ride, open the ride, and then hit “upload” to get it to GC. It’s crazy! Why is it so buggy? I’ve made sure the software is updated. Still, I worry that it will just crash during a ride as you do. Usually I can get it to unfreeze after a lot of playing around and usually there will be both rides in there if that fails, but who wants to spend 15 minutes on a 30 degree F night stopped and playing with it? I think I’ll try to call them soon and see if I have any options left a little over a year after purchase because it’s just too expensive at this cost point when the cheaper ones mostly do better (the 520 has other issues, like not being able to simply go back to the main screen you were just on after turning the light on - you have to know which buttons to push to return to your ride screen). Also moving around in maps on the 1030 can be very laggy unlike a phone. So I should just find a way to use my phone and keep it charged? It also causes me to question writers like DC Rainmaker when they talk up such a device. Perhaps many lemons got past QC, but it’s also the way the device is organized. 

  • I think that your comment about lemons getting through QC is true since I have had very few problems with the 1030 and I'm continually amazed reading some of the problems others have had. I did have my first 1030 replaced due to the blue halo issue. But other than that I'm very pleased with it. There's four other guys in my club that have 1030's and they don't have problems either so there must be a problem in production and some units are getting through final QC testing.

    I'm not saying it is perfect. I would like the low volume of the audible alerts improved and the screen could be more colorful. I also think it is priced about $200 too high but Garmin seems to be selling quite a few of them since they totally dominate the bike computer market.

  • Thanks. I need to call Garmin. Should have long ago. 

  • I had exactly the same thing. Charged up with a charger. Made sure it was completely turned off. And indeed after about 24 hours. bit more I think, it magically turned on itself again. It is that I heard it happening with the bleeps. Otherwise it would have been on for a while, probably go into sleeping mode which is still using battery, which would then result in an empty battery. Draining batteries is a big issue anyhow, so this can be added to that.