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High Aerobic Shortage not right

BRGATESJR
over 4 years ago

For some reason I keep getting little to now load added to my High Aerobic zone.  Even though it's pretty clear I am spending a good amount of time in zone 4.  What is the problem?

  • 0 over 4 years ago

    What you should look at is the training load and training effect. They uses heart rate but also other parameters to calculate the values.

    High aerobic load comes from activities that are labeled as VO2 max, threshold and tempo.

    Read more here: https://www.firstbeatanalytics.com/en/features/workout-labels/

    Support page about training effect: https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=Vi2undejXR5Mmq662o4lO9

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to e7andy

    This is not really helpful.  Did you take a look at the screenshots I posted?  Clearly there is plenty of high aerobic zone time in my workouts but it's not being translated to the proper percentage of high aerobic training effect.  Also, I've seen those articles before.  This is a software problem that only started happening fairly recently.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to BRGATESJR

    I looked at them, but I didn't see the training effect and the label the activity got. If those are not correct it doesn't matter what your HR was. It could be some setting you've missed that classifies them incorrectly or that your training effect isn't working. 

    I don't know if the activity class has any effect on training effect, but check that it is correct anyway.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to BRGATESJR

    Switch to the exercise load tab to see the load and label. It will give you a quick overview of the load and labels.

    My ride on June 4 got label "Tempo" and is classified as High Aerobic.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to BRGATESJR

    On that ride on June 4 I didn't spend much time in zone 4. A lot more in zone 1-3. It was still high aerobic.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to e7andy

    Hi Andy, Thanks for your help.

    I'm attaching the the exercise load label and the one ride that was 'tempo'.  What makes no sense is that many of my rides have more zone 2 time similar to what your ride above has yet I'm not building much 'high aerobic' points.  I don't think it's being calculated properly.

  • +1 over 4 years ago in reply to BRGATESJR

    I think you need to look into the activities that aren't classified as VO2 max, threshold or tempo and try to understand why it is classified as a low aerobic label. The HR data is far from everything. 

    The documentation for training effect says: "Training Effect is determined by your user profile information and training history, heart rate, duration, and intensity of your activity."

    User profile information means the physical data you've entered. Check the activtity class and other profile data.

    Duration is interesting. In the examples for high aerobic workouts all are short. Max 60 minutes. It is hard to keep pushing hard for a longer time than that I guess.

    Intensity? Heart rate zones maybe? Intervals?

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to e7andy

    Yeah, I just don’t get it. Most of my rides are 1.5 to 2.5 hours with a very even mix of HR and Power zones time. It just seems like too much weight is given to anaerobic load vs high aerobic. I made some tweaks to FTP which was too low by 10% based on my Sufferfest tests and raised my max heart rate by 3 beats based in history. None of those changes should make a huge difference in why I’m getting so few high aerobic load points. We will see. Gonna go on a ride today. 

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to BRGATESJR

    Strangely my last right was classified as high anaerobic benefit yet it still provided a fair amount of high aerobic load and removed the 'shortage' tag.  I still don't think Garmin is awarding this type of load properly and may be over weighting anaerobic activity.  Oh well, it's not like I'm training for the Olympics and have some specific targets I need to hit but clear and accurate results should be provided considering how much money I have invested in the Garmin ecosystem.