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Garmin Physio true up with external data (Rouvy)

Hello,

I have been a Garmin fan since quite a few years now and I owned around ten forerunner watches and three or four edge computers to record my multi sport activities and I'm really satisfied.

Now since a few days through the Ironman site i came to Rouvy which immediately caught my attention in these particular days and I did my first rides these days. let's say I'm evaluating the programm before deciding whether to subscribe or not, but it seems really awesome...

Unfortunately I realised that Rouvy doesn't directly connect to Garmin and on the other side I had some issues when using the two together: I had my laptop running Rouvy to drive my Tacx Neo smart trainer and beside I had the Edge 1030 to record the activity in order to have it in my history, to have an updated training status and simply to have it all together.

What seemed a good idea at the end didn't work: the edge showed an unrealistic speed of about 80-100 km/h whilst Rouvy showed the "real" speed around 30 km/h. All other metrics such as power, cadence etc. were identical.

Do you have an idea about how to solve the issue?

it would be great if Garmin connect would recognize these activities (without using the Edge or Forerunner) and the takes the data to Physio true up...

Thank you for your help,

Best regards,

Stefano

0 attilakaan over 5 years ago

Did you try to download the activity from Rouvy (training diary) as a fit file and upload it on garmin connect (web site)?

0 SteveC over 5 years ago

FONTI83 said:
it would be great if Garmin connect would recognize these activities (without using the Edge or Forerunner) and the takes the data to Physio true up...

Unfortunately it does not work like this currently.

The True-up metrics are licensed from FirstBeat and implemented in the Edge or Forerunner devices, so an activity has to be recorded on those devices for it to work.

So for Zwift I have to dual record, Zwift sends the activity to Strava, but I have not enabled the link to Garmin. I record the activity on my Edge 1030 and save to GC to get the True-up. The speed and distance calculations are slightly different from the TACX NEO, but not like you are seeing.

This True-Up implementation is not ideal because of the dependencies on the devices, in my example I have an FR935 and Edge 1030 and I already see differences between them because Edge 1030 has latest implementation of FirstBeat metrics but FR935 not caught up - and I am not going out to buy a FR945 any time soon!

In an ideal world the FirstBeat metrics would be calculated as a cloud service in Garmin Connect so that any activity load into GC from any source could keep the one single view of your fitness up to date - but alas we are not there.

0 FONTI83 over 5 years ago in reply to SteveC

today I found a "solution": I deactivated the speed sensor on the Edge 1030 and had it just reading power, heart-rate etc... this worked since TSS, IF etc... are not function of speed but only power.

then I synched both, Rouvy and Garmin and just edited manually the distance on Garmin Connect, to have the whole picture. of course in GC I don't have the exact speed over the duration but for that I can see it in Rouvy, Strava etc.

on the other hand I have the "effort" on GC and since the activity was recorded by the Edge 1030 I have updated Training status, too.

a bit tricky but it works. but still strange that there is still this speed difference...

0 Former Member over 5 years ago

I have been looking at these variations. I wishes to record my workout on Garmin as it contributes to my weekly figures but had double the cadence and speed with Fulgaz and approx 10% more with Rouvy. I store my figure on Strava straight from the app. Them delete the Garmin workout when it is copied to Strava.The Garmin figure can be edited in the workout to correct them. Fiddly but as you say why are they different anyway, surely in the current world this issue can be resolved by Garmin. Do we assume the training platform is more accurate?

0 kdub2051 over 4 years ago in reply to FONTI83

Thanks so much I was also looking for a solution, never thought about disabling the speed sensor on my 530. Your solution works for me. I'm hoping Garmin will integrate better with Rouvy in the future.

0 krazyeone over 4 years ago

true up doesnt work well or at all between garmin devices, and we want to work with rouvy or zwift?