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Edge Remote - Status of fix for connection issue

Garmin,

What is the status of the Edge Remote fix. Currently, the remote only works well when there is no connection to a phone.

The issue was first highlighted in Sept 2017 - https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into...16-edge-remote - but the fault was probably there from the beginning of 1030 production.

There has been very little information to address the issue from Garmin. The only responses on the forum were from Shawn-Garmin:

11-14-2017, 02:09 PM - Apologies for not reaching out to this thread sooner. We have reported the concerns you have mentioned here with the remote not staying connected and are researching the issue.

11-26-2017, 05:56 PM - There is an open ticket to investigate issues with the Edge remote not staying connected. Sorry for the frustration.

03-02-2018, 07:03 PM - We want to acknowledge to our Edge 1030 customers that we are actively working to address the issues being experienced when using the Edge Remote. We have narrowed down the problem as an issue with concurrent wireless transmissions impacting the communication between the Edge 1030 and the Edge Remote. The team is working on a solution to resolve the issue with the remote as well as not impact communication with other wireless components. We understand your frustrations. I will update this thread once the issue is resolved and have information about providing a SW update to our customers impacted by this issue.

04-06-2018, 10:15 PM - Thanks for reaching out Teriemer. We are still investigating the issue. We will get it sorted out. Once we have a fix, I will post it here.

04-13-2018, 05:31 PM - Thanks for the udpate. We are working on a solution and apologize for the delay.

04-24-2018, 07:02 PM - We are still investigating the remote issue. @das1e and lopoga I will reach out to you via PM and help get things sorted out for you.

05-01-2018, 09:14 PM - We have been able to tweak previous versions of the software and help improve the connectivity in some use cases. In other cases, we fell short due to our inability to reproduce the issue in house. However, this continued discussion and feedback have helped us in narrowing down the root cause and now requires us to work with our various suppliers to assist in developing a solution. If you could please post the following information to this thread, this will help further define our search for a viable solution.
1. Phone and OS version
2. what other devices are connected to and/or paired to the phone (including non-Garmin devices)
3. settings.fit file and activity files

05-22-2018, 11:37 PM - We are continuing to work on remote issues.


06-15-2018, 09:40 PM - I can say we are still investigating the issue and working towards a solution. Sorry for the delay in response here.

07-05-2018, 09:34 PM- I can confirm what Alan has stated above. We have recently had a few occasions where we were able to capture the issue in house. It has been very elusive to reproduce. We continue to work on a solution to the problem. I apologize it seems that we are not interested in the issue but we are indeed working on a fix.

09-20-2018, 04:47 PM - We do continue to work on getting this issue resolved. We do not feel like disconnecting the phone is an acceptable solution. Our full intent is to fix this issue. I apologize for the frustration.

It has been 1 year that Garmin have been working on getting the Edge Remote to work with the 1030. It would be greatly appreciated if we could have an update on what the current issues are and when we can expect the remote to work once again.

Please don't put the Edge Remote issue to the bottom of your to do list. It is an important feature for a lot of users.

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The following table is a summary of user issues contained in this thread. Most users experience intermittent issues with their Edge Remote. One user did not have any issues at all. [TABLE="align: center, border: 1, cellpadding: 3, width: 900, height: 135"]
[TR]
[TD]USER[/TD]
[TD]REMOTE WORKING[/TD]
[TD]WiFi ENABLED[/TD]
[TD]BLE CONNECTED[/TD]
[TD]PHONE[/TD]
[TD]1030 FIRMWARE[/TD]
[TD]SENSORS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ztbishop[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]??[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Android OS ???[/TD]
[TD]??[/TD]
[TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Stages Power ANT+, Wahoo Tickr ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]mcineer1[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]NO[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]iPhoneX iOS 11.3.1[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Wahoo HR ANT+, Stages 2 ANT+, Garmin Hub Speed ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+, tried with 2 different remotes.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]lopoga[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Huawei P20 Android 8[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+,Garmin HR ANT+,Bontrager Flare RT ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]aweatherall[/TD]
[TD]*** YES[/TD]
[TD]???[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]iPhone 6 iOS 11.4

Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime Android 7.0[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]DI2 ANT+, HRM ANT+, Vector 3 ANT+, Speed ANT+, Radar ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]alessusnik[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Huawei P20 Lite, Samsung 8, both Android 8[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin HRM ANT+, Vector 3 ANT+, Garmin Speed ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]hotdogpartysausage[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]NO[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Samsung S6 Android 7.0[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin HRM ANT+, Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+, PowerTap SL+ ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]RVASSEN[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]???[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]iPhone 6s iOS 11.4[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]DI2 ANT+, HRM ANT+, Vector 2 ANT+, Speed ANT+, Radar ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+, tried with 2 different remotes.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chris.J.Hart[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Oneplus 6 Android 8.1.0 (Oxygen 5.1.8)[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin HRM-RUN ANT+, Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+,[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]hayenm[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Iphone 8 IOS 11.4[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+, Garmin heartrate strap ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
  • So yesterday I disabled the phone on the Edge and the remote worked fine. Today I enabled the phone again, got it connected, remote worked fine on today's ride, never lost it once near as I could tell. And I had my phone stuff back, Accuweather Minutecast mostly. Go figger. Of course, Minutecast said No Precipitation for at least 120 minutes and I was riding in the rain, so there's THAT:)
  • I guess this is just another thread thread on the Edge Remote which has died. Same response from Garmin that they are still investigating since September 2017. Very odd and very puzzling that this is such a complex issue to resolve.
  • Surprisingly, since disabling the phone on the Edge, doing one ride to see if the remote worked then (it did), enabling and connecting the phone again, the remote has worked flawlessly for 6 rides, 200+ miles!! All with WiFi turned on, phone connected, LOTS of sensors (5 bikes). I almost hate so even mention this, but everything on my 1030 has been great for a week!!
  • thosj

    What is the phone model you use and what is the firmware version of the phone and your 1030?
  • the remote has worked flawlessly for 6 rides, 200+ miles!! All with WiFi turned on, phone connected, LOTS of sensors (5 bikes). I almost hate so even mention this, but everything on my 1030 has been great for a week!!


    Thosj,

    I'm glad that it is working for you.

    What is your setup. What phone model and software version are you using. Did you upgrade the 1030 to the latest firmware 5.00?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    So this issue is occurring for me with multiple Android phones (I've changed models a few times). I'm curious does it happen to anybody with iPhone connected?
    -I've checked error files and see nothing created during the rides for which I have the remote disconnects.

    Next time I'll see if having WIFI enabled / disabled makes any difference, tho I haven't had much time to ride lately.
    I'll try to keep track of my connections, but so far I've used the below setup on 5 bikes. Each have their own speed and pwr/cad.

    -Garmin speed (ANT+)
    -Stages power meters (ANT+) (gen1,2,3, single, double) depends on which bike I'm on.
    -Wahoo Tickr (ANT+)
    -Garmin Remote (Unsure if this is ANT+, BLE, or a combo)
    -Android OS (BLE)
    -Unsure if WIFI was 'enabled'.
  • Here is a summary table of Edge Remote disconnect issues when a phone is connected to the 1030 via BLE. If you are having issues with the Edge Remote, or if it is working perfectly, post your details and I will update the table.

    [TABLE="align: left, border: 3, cellpadding: 3, width: 700"]
    [TR]
    [TD]USER[/TD]
    [TD]REMOTE WORKING[/TD]
    [TD]WiFi ENABLED[/TD]
    [TD]BLE CONNECTED[/TD]
    [TD]PHONE[/TD]
    [TD]1030 FIRMWARE[/TD]
    [TD]SENSORS[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]ztbishop[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]???[/TD]
    [TD]YES[/TD]
    [TD]Android OS ???[/TD]
    [TD]???[/TD]
    [TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Stages Power ANT+, Wahoo Tickr ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]mcineer1[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]YES[/TD]
    [TD]iPhoneX iOS 11.3.1[/TD]
    [TD]5.00[/TD]
    [TD]Wahoo HR ANT+, Stages 2 ANT+, Garmin Hub Speed ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
  • Thanks ztbishop,

    The Edge Remote is ANT+

    I put together a table in post #28 where we can log our configurations. Let me know if you have data for the ???
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 6 years ago
    [TABLE="align: center, border: 1, cellpadding: 1, width: 1002, height: 135"]
    [TR]
    [TD]USER[/TD]
    [TD]REMOTE WORKING[/TD]
    [TD]WiFi ENABLED[/TD]
    [TD]BLE CONNECTED[/TD]
    [TD]PHONE[/TD]
    [TD]1030 FIRMWARE[/TD]
    [TD]SENSORS[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]ztbishop[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]??[/TD]
    [TD]YES[/TD]
    [TD]Android OS ???[/TD]
    [TD]??[/TD]
    [TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Stages Power ANT+, Wahoo Tickr ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]mcineer1[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]YES[/TD]
    [TD]iPhoneX iOS 11.3.1[/TD]
    [TD]5.00[/TD]
    [TD]Wahoo HR ANT+, Stages 2 ANT+, Garmin Hub Speed ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]lopoga[/TD]
    [TD]NO[/TD]
    [TD]YES[/TD]
    [TD]YES[/TD]
    [TD]Huawei P20 Android 8[/TD]
    [TD]5.00[/TD]
    [TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+,Garmin HR ANT+,Bontrager Flare RT ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]