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Edge Remote - Status of fix for connection issue

Garmin,

What is the status of the Edge Remote fix. Currently, the remote only works well when there is no connection to a phone.

The issue was first highlighted in Sept 2017 - https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into...16-edge-remote - but the fault was probably there from the beginning of 1030 production.

There has been very little information to address the issue from Garmin. The only responses on the forum were from Shawn-Garmin:

11-14-2017, 02:09 PM - Apologies for not reaching out to this thread sooner. We have reported the concerns you have mentioned here with the remote not staying connected and are researching the issue.

11-26-2017, 05:56 PM - There is an open ticket to investigate issues with the Edge remote not staying connected. Sorry for the frustration.

03-02-2018, 07:03 PM - We want to acknowledge to our Edge 1030 customers that we are actively working to address the issues being experienced when using the Edge Remote. We have narrowed down the problem as an issue with concurrent wireless transmissions impacting the communication between the Edge 1030 and the Edge Remote. The team is working on a solution to resolve the issue with the remote as well as not impact communication with other wireless components. We understand your frustrations. I will update this thread once the issue is resolved and have information about providing a SW update to our customers impacted by this issue.

04-06-2018, 10:15 PM - Thanks for reaching out Teriemer. We are still investigating the issue. We will get it sorted out. Once we have a fix, I will post it here.

04-13-2018, 05:31 PM - Thanks for the udpate. We are working on a solution and apologize for the delay.

04-24-2018, 07:02 PM - We are still investigating the remote issue. @das1e and lopoga I will reach out to you via PM and help get things sorted out for you.

05-01-2018, 09:14 PM - We have been able to tweak previous versions of the software and help improve the connectivity in some use cases. In other cases, we fell short due to our inability to reproduce the issue in house. However, this continued discussion and feedback have helped us in narrowing down the root cause and now requires us to work with our various suppliers to assist in developing a solution. If you could please post the following information to this thread, this will help further define our search for a viable solution.
1. Phone and OS version
2. what other devices are connected to and/or paired to the phone (including non-Garmin devices)
3. settings.fit file and activity files

05-22-2018, 11:37 PM - We are continuing to work on remote issues.


06-15-2018, 09:40 PM - I can say we are still investigating the issue and working towards a solution. Sorry for the delay in response here.

07-05-2018, 09:34 PM- I can confirm what Alan has stated above. We have recently had a few occasions where we were able to capture the issue in house. It has been very elusive to reproduce. We continue to work on a solution to the problem. I apologize it seems that we are not interested in the issue but we are indeed working on a fix.

09-20-2018, 04:47 PM - We do continue to work on getting this issue resolved. We do not feel like disconnecting the phone is an acceptable solution. Our full intent is to fix this issue. I apologize for the frustration.

It has been 1 year that Garmin have been working on getting the Edge Remote to work with the 1030. It would be greatly appreciated if we could have an update on what the current issues are and when we can expect the remote to work once again.

Please don't put the Edge Remote issue to the bottom of your to do list. It is an important feature for a lot of users.

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[TD]USER[/TD]
[TD]REMOTE WORKING[/TD]
[TD]WiFi ENABLED[/TD]
[TD]BLE CONNECTED[/TD]
[TD]PHONE[/TD]
[TD]1030 FIRMWARE[/TD]
[TD]SENSORS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ztbishop[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]??[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Android OS ???[/TD]
[TD]??[/TD]
[TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Stages Power ANT+, Wahoo Tickr ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]mcineer1[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]NO[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]iPhoneX iOS 11.3.1[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Wahoo HR ANT+, Stages 2 ANT+, Garmin Hub Speed ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+, tried with 2 different remotes.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]lopoga[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Huawei P20 Android 8[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+,Garmin HR ANT+,Bontrager Flare RT ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]aweatherall[/TD]
[TD]*** YES[/TD]
[TD]???[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]iPhone 6 iOS 11.4

Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime Android 7.0[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]DI2 ANT+, HRM ANT+, Vector 3 ANT+, Speed ANT+, Radar ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]alessusnik[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Huawei P20 Lite, Samsung 8, both Android 8[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin HRM ANT+, Vector 3 ANT+, Garmin Speed ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]hotdogpartysausage[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]NO[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Samsung S6 Android 7.0[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin HRM ANT+, Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+, PowerTap SL+ ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]RVASSEN[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]???[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]iPhone 6s iOS 11.4[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]DI2 ANT+, HRM ANT+, Vector 2 ANT+, Speed ANT+, Radar ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+, tried with 2 different remotes.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chris.J.Hart[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Oneplus 6 Android 8.1.0 (Oxygen 5.1.8)[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin HRM-RUN ANT+, Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+,[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]hayenm[/TD]
[TD]INTERMITTENT[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]YES[/TD]
[TD]Iphone 8 IOS 11.4[/TD]
[TD]5.00[/TD]
[TD]Garmin Speed ANT+, Garmin Cadence ANT+, Garmin heartrate strap ANT+, Edge Remote ANT+[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
  • It is a personal preference, I agree. I hardly receive any text messages or calls while I ride, but I change the screens on 1030 a lot, if I'm using the navigation, then even more, therefor Remote working, took over :-)

    Of course, I would love that the phone connection could be used and at the same time understand that this means much more to some, then it does to me.
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    0 Former Member over 7 years ago

    What is curious is that SHAW does not say anything about it, is it that there is no solution?
  • I can say we are still investigating the issue and working towards a solution. Sorry for the delay in response here.
  • I can say we are still investigating the issue and working towards a solution. Sorry for the delay in response here.


    Shawn,

    I was really hoping that you would not say that. This is exactly the same response you have given for over 9 months.

    It would be greatly appreciated if you, or someone from you technical team, could tell us what the issues are. Is it a hardware issue, a software issue, an interference issue, a lack of manpower .... and what steps you are taking to resolve it. Why is a feature Garmin has implemented perfectly on the Edge 1000 suddenly not working on the Edge 1030.

    We have been waiting a really long time for this feature to work and would appreciate a serious attempt to explain what is happening.
  • Garmin Beta-team answered in February 2018 to me:
    One chip handles ANT, BT, BLE, and Wi-Fi connections, so we think that there is a coexistence issue and we are working with the manufacturer to resolve it.

    In my oppinion, it is a hardware-design-problem of that chip, which apparently cannot be solved by software.
    So, I agree with Loukas: they should build a new Remote v2 which fits to the chip.
    Although - to build a new chip which works flawlessly and change that chip in all Edge's would be the better way. But that's simply too expensive and complicated, I'm afraid.

    And so... All they can do is duck and cover...
  • Would be of interest if they change that chip with a new designed for new produced Edges? Or have they stopped producing 1030 already?
    Same question for changing the display. It seems all devices get the „blue-halo“ by the time (mine suffers already of blue halo).
  • I've obtained a refund for this reason. I have to admit that their support is very honest and they help me a lot.

    I come back to Edge 820. And the same remote edge has returned to work.
    Then... The 820 update to 9.10 firmware version broke other things like Strava Segments... I don't know what's happening to Garmin.
    It's sad that the BEST Bike Computer/GPS producer has so many issues this year: it is very sad.
  • Would be of interest if they change that chip with a new designed for new produced Edges? Or have they stopped producing 1030 already?
    Same question for changing the display. It seems all devices get the „blue-halo“ by the time (mine suffers already of blue halo).


    Mine has actually got the same halo by now. Are there any feedback from Garmin on that issue? Does anybody know?
  • Mine has actually got the same halo by now. Are there any feedback from Garmin on that issue? Does anybody know?


    https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into-sports/cycling/edge-1030-aa/1304483-edge-1030-halo?p=1330333#post1330333
  • Garmin Beta-team answered in February 2018 to me:
    One chip handles ANT, BT, BLE, and Wi-Fi connections, so we think that there is a coexistence issue and we are working with the manufacturer to resolve it.

    In my oppinion, it is a hardware-design-problem of that chip, which apparently cannot be solved by software.


    Shawn,

    Is it really a hardware problem? The Edge Remote is an ANT+ device. If there was some interference issue inside the chip then all ANT+ sensors would be affected.

    Please shed some light on what the issue is and when Garmin will be able to solve it.