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3.97 - ascents still not fix properly.

Former Member
Former Member
- Fixed issue where the ascent remaining and ascent to next course point data field values did not match the total ascent for the course.

It took me 1 minute to know that it is still not fixed completely.

Yes, these 2 data field values now match total ascent for the cours, but ascent in cours sent to 1030 now not match ascent data from garmin connect by about 30 % !
Garmin, you repaired one but spoiled the second thing, as a result this 2 data fields still shows incorrect values.

It was repaired 3 months ago, now it does not work again.

aweatherall :
01-31-2018, 09:30 AM
The problem is with what Garmin Connect is sending to the Edge. Let me pass what I have found on to Garmin.

02-02-2018, 09:46 AM
Garmin contacted me and reported the issue is now fixed. I just tried it and it works.
Delete the courses with the wrong elevation data off your Edge and try re-sending them from Garmin Connect.

Garmin.
You create cours in garmin connect, then sent to 1030.
In 1030, in cours summary, ascent-descent data must match ascent-descent data from garmin connect, after 3.97 update it does not work again- you have to fix it.
Then keep what you repaired in 3.97 update- ascent data fields mast match data from cours summary.

Garmin, you are closer, but still not there.

https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into-sports/cycling/edge-1030-aa/1302849-courses-incorrect-height
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    In 1030, in cours summary, ascent-descent data must match ascent-descent data from garmin connect, /QUOTE]

    I am not fully persuaded that it must be true. Both Edge and Connect have its own elevation data concerning your course. So when I prepare my course in any editor like Garmin connect, it shows me ascent - descent data according its elevation data. When I transfer the course to 1030 it counts its ascent-descent data according to the elevation data of its map. This way it works, at least I suppose.
  • Build 3.97 made a change to recompute the elevation gain/loss using its on-board algorithm rather than accepting the value that maybe passed over. It is using the elevation data supplied in the course file (it does not change that), but it s computing it's own gain/loss value. These new values are then stored in the course file on the Edge and are used to report "Ascent remaining" and "Ascent to next course point".
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    But your explanations do not change facts.
    It just does not work.
    Examples:
    Course 1. 130km. ascent: in garmin connect 1561m, in 1030 2395 m
    Course 2. 90km. ascent: in garmin connect 945m, in 1030 1465 m
    Course 3. 60km. ascent: in garmin connect 1014m, in 1030 1327m

    Do you see the difference? 800m, 500m, 300m.
    It is not a few meters, but hundreds of meters.
    Which indications are correct ?

  • I’ m explaining why the values differ. The 1030 uses a different method from GC to determine what the gain/loss is when using the same data points.

    Without riding the course you cannot really say which method is correct. Only that they give different values.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    Garmin connect and edge 1030 are designed by the same company.
    Why they do not cooperate with each other ?
    if nobody knows which indications are true, what sense do these functions have?
    How to use them, how should they be useful, if you never know what they indicate?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    Next update and another big disappointment.
    Garmin, when will you fix this whole mess ?
    Should we all ask for a refund ?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    Update 4.0 is a regular copy of 0.37.
    What did not work, still does not work.
    Garmin.
    Do you see the difference? 800m, 500m, 300m.
    It is not a few meters, but hundreds of meters.
    Which indications are correct ?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    Copy of 3.97...