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1030 problems

Just purchased a 1030 as a replacement for a 1000. First thing I did was put the latest 3.80 F/W on it. Works OK when just being used to record a ride, but...

1. Garmin have perpetuated the problem on the Australian 1030 that existed on the Australian 1000 - with the basemap they supply, T-B-T navigation does not work with OSM maps - it works OK with the map that Garmin supply, but as I'm shortly going cycling in Europe and will be using the Velomap maps, I tested with the Velomap Australia map. The supplied basemap is 48.5Mb and is identified as "INTL standard Basemap, NR". If I disable the basemap, then T-B-T navigation starts working correctly. See attached screen shots - with the basemap enabled, the street name and turn direction area at the top of the screen is blank. With the basemap disabled, the data appears. If I rename the basemap in the Garmin folder on the 1030 and copy in the gmapbmap.img from my old Edge Touring, which is about 1/10 the size (5.75Mb), then I can enable that and T-B-T navigation continues to work correctly. The original discussion concerning the same problem on the 1000 is at https://forums.garmin.com/forum/into-sports/cycling/edge-1000-aa/123750-.

No T-B-T directions with basemap enabled


T-B-T directions appear with basemap disabled


2. Access to the SD card when mounted in the 1030 is many times slower than if I remove the card and access it via an SD reader. I had to use a 32Gb class 10 SD card for the Velomap Europe map as there was insufficient space for it on the 1030 internal memory. I initially tried installing the map from Basecamp to the SD card while it was mounted in the 1030, which was attached to a USB3 port on the PC. I stopped the install after several hours because it was still only about 20% complete. Copied GarminDevice.xml to the Garmin folder on the card, deleted the incomplete map files from the card, then removed it from the 1030 and re-ran the install with the card in an SD reader. The install completed inside two hours.

Nick
  • No surprise there, AuldNik! It some regards the E1030 seems exactly the same as the E1000, particularly in the navigation space.

    Would you mind repeating the experiment I did at post 51 of the thread you refer to see if "INTL standard Basemap, NR" a supposedly non-routable map is actually routable, and therefore a potential source of conflict.

    Cheers, Peter
  • ...If I disable the basemap, then T-B-T navigation starts working correctly...

    Disable the basemap or use the one that works. The basemap isn't required.

    2. Access to the SD card when mounted in the 1030 is many times slower than if I remove the card and access it via an SD reader. I had to use a 32Gb class 10 SD card for the Velomap Europe map as there was insufficient space for it on the 1030 internal memory. I initially tried installing the map from Basecamp to the SD card while it was mounted in the 1030, which was attached to a USB3 port on the PC. I stopped the install after several hours because it was still only about 20% complete. Copied GarminDevice.xml to the Garmin folder on the card, deleted the incomplete map files from the card, then removed it from the 1030 and re-ran the install with the card in an SD reader. The install completed inside two hours.


    Do you have the *.img file from Velomap? If so, you should be able to copy that file to the \Garmin folder on SD card (stuck directly into your computer).

    The OSM maps I use provide the *.img file. I just copy the file.

    (I suspect using Basecamp for installing maps is intended for managing maps on devices with small amounts of memory or to deal with licences.)

    I believe the GarminDevice.xml file the unit looks like is on the internal memory (that is, it ignores the copy and you don't need to copy it).


  • Actually, when I disabled the supplied basemap, the 1030 gave me a warning about a maximum of 50 course points being allowed... I'm presently using the old basemap from my Edge Touring instead, which doesn't stuff up the T-B-T notifications when enabled.

    I use Basecamp because the Velomap maps are supplied as .exe files for installation into Basecamp. So long as I have a copy of GarminDevice.xml on the SD card, I can remove it from the Garmin and place it in an SD card reader, and Basecamp will see it as a Garmin device to install the maps onto.

    Nick
  • Actually, when I disabled the supplied basemap, the 1030 gave me a warning about a maximum of 50 course points being allowed...

    That's really weird. The basemap should have nothing to do with a course point limit.

    There are a few advantages in having a basemap (it makes drawing low zoom levels faster) but it's not required (the stuff that matters will work without one).

    I use Basecamp because the Velomap maps are supplied as .exe files for installation into Basecamp. So long as I have a copy of GarminDevice.xml on the SD card, I can remove it from the Garmin and place it in an SD card reader, and Basecamp will see it as a Garmin device to install the maps onto.

    I use the *.img files for everything.

    You can use the *.img files directly in Basecamp by creating a virtual removable disk (that's what I do). You can copy the *.img files to the SD card.

    I'm not sure if there's much value in having the exe installer but that's what Velomap provides.

    Other sources of OSM maps give you the the *.img file to muck with. I don't use Basecamp to install maps (you don't really need to unless your device has very limited storage).

    And I create my own *.I'm going files.
  • I just performed a test, copying a 397Mb file to the microSD card (a class 10 32Gb Kingston).

    1. With the card in the 1030 and the 1030 connected to the PC with a USB cable, average throughput for the copy: 292Kb/s. I tried both USB2 and USB3 ports with two different cables, and the performance remained the same.

    2. With the card removed from the 1030 and placed in a USB SD card reader connected to the same PC, average throughput for the copy: 11Mb/s

    That's a 38x speed improvement with the card removed from the 1030. 292Kb/s isn't even USB1 speed.
  • Another shortcoming of the 1030 - on earlier models it was fairly easy to replace the battery when it started to lose capacity, as the GPS case was held together with small Torx screws. I replaced the battery without much difficulty on my Edge 1000 last year when I noticed it was losing capacity and no longer lasting long rides without charging along the way. With the 1030, Garmin have decided to make it more of a throwaway unit, as the case appears to be welded together.

    I also notice that the temperature sensor on the 1030 takes a lot longer to come to equilibrium than on the 1000. The 1000 has the sensor on a metal plate on the underside, and responds quite quickly to temperature changes. The 1030 is lacking this, and the temperature readings take a lot longer to stabilize when going from sun to shade or vice versa, or when starting after a rest halt where the bike has been in direct sunlight.