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Reasons to upgrade to Edge 1030 from Edge 1000.

jimoestman
over 7 years ago
Hi,

If people are interested in finding out, this topic is meant to give motivation to (and/or discouragement from) upgrading their Edge 1000/820/520 to the 1030.

Lets stick to discussing the added features, changes, and experiences and leave the money aspect out.
We may all have our own opinion on how much an added feature is worth to us in $$$, but frankly, I don't think anybody cares.

So lets start with the things we can take from Garmin marketing and reviews. Some of these are up for debate...do they actually work well in real life??
  • Larger and more readable screen. More pixels. Also brighter?
  • Better battery life plus the extra battery pack solutions
  • New rider-to-rider messaging (for now only between 1030 models)
  • Preloaded Strava Live Segments feature.
  • Easier setup and more intuitive UI??? (In my opinion, historically not one of Garmin's strengths)
  • A screen less affected by rain (touchscreen problems)? (Problem solved with a Edge remote)
  • Trendline? popularity routing. But how well does it work in real life and does it work at all with unpaved roads and single tracks...
  • Accelerometer. Any other use than incident detection???
  • New data fields (some that Garmin could effortlessly add to old devices) Still wishing for "Ascent remaining" and "Ascent to Next" which is on the 1030. But where is "Ascent to Course point"???
Not so good reasons:
  • The eventual stop of new firmware updates for your existing device to fix bugs and if we are lucky new features found on newer devices.

I'm sure I'm missing a lot in this initial post, so please share your experiences and other more hidden features. I think many people will appreciate them.

Thank you!

- Jim

Personally I am very excited about the Trendline feature, if it delivers on its promise and is not another gimmick. The navigation features have had its hick-ups on previous models. I stopped using it and only ride preplanned tcx-courses if i should need navigation.
Also I use Strava all the time, and it is great if one can monitor starred segments live while riding, instead of checking them post ride. Wondering how integrated this is into the OS. You get a notification, but how do you start monitoring a segment live? Do you have to go to some connect IQ app and exit your ride data screens, which could maybe translate into 5 to 10 button pushes? Who has time for that on a sprint or downhill segment....
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Could be considered a plus for some people if it can run more complex Connect iQ applications (e.g Xert training app).
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    This is certainly an interest topic and one I was going to bring up as I have wrote a piece on this on my website which can be found here

    https://www.activejr.com/garmin-edge...ey-to-upgrade/

    However in the spirit of discussion on the forum, here is my two penny worth
    • Battery Screen
      • The screen is a lot better and easier to read and given my eyes are not great I really like this. The Edge 1000 was still ok and my testing the Edge 1030 just pips it.

    • Better battery life
      • This is a great feature and I am still to really test it out on a big ride, but so far its performing well and not having to charge as often as the Edge 1000. That being said I dont have my problems with the Edge 1000. In terms of the extra battery, its expensive and you could use this on the Edge 1000 with an adapter which is extra. A solution I have used (Use it for the Virb XE) is a small ANKER power pack. I have used it for a 3 and half hour ride and filmed with the Virb XE all the time, well the SD card ran out of space 20 mins towards the end of the ride. This only cost me 12 quid compared to 119.

    • Garmin Edge 1030 connectivity
      • The only big difference is the Bluetooth smart and I do think this will be useful for some. The big thing for me for Bluetooth smart is the low power usage and it will help with battery power when connected to a Smartphone. I did find the Edge 1000 drained a lot when using with a Smartphone so most of the time I turned it off.

    • Garmin Edge 1030 TRENDLINE popularity routing
      • Like the OP said he/She is excited for this and so I am. It works well on the bike and I have found some new routes I would not have tried. That being said Garmin have just enabled route creation on the GCM app and this does exactly the same. I have tested with a Edge 1000, Fenix 5x and the Edge 1030 and it gave me the same route, So I am assuming its using TRENDLINE the GCM app aswell. Using it on the GCM app is easier I think as you can look at the map in far greater detail than you can with the Edge 1030. But either way it works well across all devices.

    • Garmin Edge 1030 comes with Preloaded apps from Strava, TrainingPeaks
      • Both these apps are avaiable on other IQ enabled devices. However the big difference being the Live segment upgrade is slightly different and improved on the Edge 1030 in my view.

    • Garmin Edge 1030 rider to rider messaging
      • This is a good feature, but only useful if the other person as a Edge 1030. Garmin need to roll this out to other Edge devices that can support it for it to really take off. I gave this feedback to a Garmin rep Friday. I am still not convinced if simply texting is easier on the phone as it still takes away attention slightly and I prefer to stop and message.

    • Garmin Edge 1030 advance performance feature
      • This is a feature that I really like and I really like on my Fenix 5x. I use this data a lot to see if I am improving and is far more useful when using a powermeter. I am still not sure if the Data from the Fenix 5x and the Edge 1030 is being combined into one view on the GC app as I have not being tested for long enough. This is another advantage over the Edge 1000 and I am not convinced it will come to the Edge 1000 either

    • Garmin Edge 1030 cycling safety
      • The inclusion of the incident detection is nothing new and is featured on other edge devices. Its a good feature but when I was testing on the Edge 820 I got lots of false alerts until I upgraded the firmware and then this was reduced. I have not got around to testing this yet as part of my long term review as I don't have the benefit like DC rainmaker of getting this months before launch, so am currently focusing on the new features to get a feel and then will test the features that have been around for sometime to see if improvements have been made.


    Conclusion

    I think the Garmin Edge 1030 is a good upgrade to the Edge 1000, but are we going to see features like the rider to rider messaging, TRENDLINE routing and performance features being rolled out to other Edge devices or the 1000 is still a open question in my view. I know the OP said lets ignore the cost of the Edge 1030, but you cant really ignore it as its a big ask to pay that much for a cycling computer and its the price of some of the peoples bikes I ride with, so I suspect it will be for those that think money is no problem or want the latest and greatest. For me I am still on the fence over the value, but its certainly a solid device with lots of appeal

    Hope you found this useful
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    1030 lasted the entire 14 hours for the Shenandoah Mountain 100 mile MTB race (yeah, I know, it's not a fast time), with the backlight off (turned it up halfway in the last hour of race), connected to Edge Remote, powermeter crank, speed sensor, heart rate sensor, and my iPhone. Frequently changed screens from a single data screen, map, and elevation profile. I had battery level on the data screen but didn't check at the end of the race, but I'm pretty sure that I had somewhere in the ball park of 30%-40% battery left. As some other poster noted, I wish that the silicone sensor and, for me, the screen protector were also available on launch day. But the edge 1000 cover seems to be ok on the 1030 as a temporary measure. I think that 1000 would have lasted only 11 or 12 hours max.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    1030 lasted the entire 14 hours for the Shenandoah Mountain 100 mile MTB race (yeah, I know, it's not a fast time), with the backlight off (turned it up halfway in the last hour of race), connected to Edge Remote, powermeter crank, speed sensor, heart rate sensor, and my iPhone. Frequently changed screens from a single data screen, map, and elevation profile. I had battery level on the data screen but didn't check at the end of the race, but I'm pretty sure that I had somewhere in the ball park of 30%-40% battery left. As some other poster noted, I wish that the silicone sensor and, for me, the screen protector were also available on launch day. But the edge 1000 cover seems to be ok on the 1030 as a temporary measure. I think that 1000 would have lasted only 11 or 12 hours max.


    Were you using the navigation?
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Were you using the navigation?


    I was riding a saved route but route recalculation was turned off. Also, using both glonass and gps and using the 1-sec recording.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Could be considered a plus for some people if it can run more complex Connect iQ applications (e.g Xert training app).


    Outside of the screen resolution the 1030 and the 1000 seem the same. Same memory for apps, etc. Not sure about CPU speed as benchmarks haven't been updated yet.
  • 0 over 7 years ago
    Outside of the screen resolution the 1030 and the 1000 seem the same.


    I have not calculated it exactly, but to me it looks the resolution is the same. Just you have more pixel because the screen is bigger. Don't know how the use the bigger screen size. Increasing font size or just placing more stuff of the same size. Finally a map should be able to enlarge showing the same section.

    I would be interested in realistic battery testing. No backlite out, just as low as useful. Everything else on. Pratically I never had a problem with battery on my Edge dispite a full day of navigation > 5 hours excluding breaks. Most of the time I get close to 6 hours but there is a good chance it stops before I am finished.
    I don't thing anything like BT sensors etc. will help for this. Poverer consumption of the screen in general and displaying/refreshing map is the goal here.