Bring back average pace range in workouts

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Thanks for the answer I've already sent it there as well!

Just buy stryd for instant pace readings.

No , stryd doesn't works ! It is 4% wrong in distance and pace. Even with factor adjustment I can't get a reliable information.

1. How do you know it is 4% off?

2. If correction factor does not seem to work for you then surely you can simply adjust your training pace range by that factor?

I am very disappointed by the abysmal software quality on my FR965. In fact, I am just waiting for Suunto to fix a couple of things in Race S and I am jumping the ship. But I think that execution of a running workout and GPS tracking are actually two of the few remaining things Garmin still manages to get right.

I think people have sometimes unreasonable expectations. I mean, the OPs problem that running pace precision is only to the 0:05min/km. Would that make any sense to make it 0:01min/km? Surely it's doable, just a simple software change. But does the OP look at his/her watch all the time and constantly adjust the pace to be precisely on that 4:21min/km and not 4:20 or 4:25? What if it's windy? Or the ground surface or gradient change even slightly? All of these would have impact on exerted effort and there is no way a human is able to adjust to all of these external factors in real time.

Not to mention that a GPS device should be put on top of a head not on a wrist, because the wrist of a running person has different velocity than the rest of the body. And the body weight on a given day. And the amount of clothes he/she put on for that training...

There is one way to train with more precision. Treadmill. But there's not much point in using a GPS watch on that.

Average pace (per km) data field is there for me.

Range is and always has been per km / lap

It has never been customisable per 100m, 500m etc etc.

Im not asking for something new, im asking for what i used to have bwyspa. Thats the thing, you have an awesome watch software that shows pace normally why change it and make it round up? No i dont look at my watch all the time, but i do sprint workouts where i might run 20-30 seconds really fast. and in these workouts having my pace rounding up is a problem i didn't have. Newer watches are supposed to solve problems not create new ones.  I dont understand why my expectations seem unreasonable to you, when i had them with my Garmin 745 for years now. Is it unreasonable to ask that i can access the same quality of product i had all these tears when shifting to a newer and more expensive model?

The fact that FR745 shows you 4:01/km pace and not 4:00/km or 4:05/km does not mean it is more precise. It isn't. It was lying to you. There is no such thing as instant pace. Only an approximation based on a bunch of data points gather in the last 1,2,3 or whatever number of seconds.

The difference in distance you make per second between 4:00/km and 4:01/km is 17mm. Do you really think any sports watch using civil frequency GNSS is able to be that precise? The accuracy of a civil GNSS is probably no less than 1 meter. The difference between 4:00/km and 4:05/km is 85mm. There's a good chance your fingers are longer than that.

I agree that might be the case. It might not be 4.02 but it has consistency. Meaning I know I can hold a 4.12 pace for X amount of time, whether that's an actual 4.12 is irrelevant. When I am able to maintain 4.08 instead of 4.12 for the same X amount of time I can measure my progress. It's not about the absolute correct-Ness of the measurements it's about their relative variability. I can get the average pace from a custom field so in the end I can get kind of the same reading in one screen but I don't get why garmin decided to just delete what many users where using and not just add their extra thing so we can be happy. I don't get why I can't access the data fields that I want from data I know the watch can measure.