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18.23 issues: Recovery too low?

jmio316

Hi All,

I've had the 965 since it came out last year, and the latest firmware recovery math doesn't really match up with reality, for me anyways.  I run 30-40 miles a week, and go to the gym 4 days a a week.  I'm starting my based build for a June Marathon, and my mileage has increase over last month, but my recovery time has gone down.  6 months ago, the recovery rate was too high (a gym workout, and a 10k easy  run would result in a 30 hour recovery, but now that same work day results in a 14 hour recovery.)  Has anyone else noticed the same trend?  

Thanks,

Chris,

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    garmin recovery time has nothing to do with the actual recovery time your body needs to. as an example, 30 mins indoor rowing, training load 125, recovery time 16 hours. 10 hours hiking 1000 m elevation up and down, 30 km, training load 126, recovery time 16 hours.

    in the first case, I was comfortably tired, with a lot of energy left. after the hike, I was very exhausted

    so the recovery time depends on a training load, and that depends on your HR, mainly in the first period (~30 mins) of the activity

    in your case I can think of 2 scenarios:
    1) you got more fit, less HR needed for the same activity
    2) you start the activity with the less demanding part

    everything depends on the training load, an that is a flawed and rudimentary metric - you can simply ignore it

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    jmio316 said:
    6 months ago, the recovery rate was too high (a gym workout, and a 10k easy  run would result in a 30 hour recovery, but now that same work day results in a 14 hour recovery.)

    The recovery time is based on how fast your Excess Post-Exercise Oxygen Consumption is decreasing (EPOC). The decrease is mostly time-based by stress can reduce the speed and sleep can accelerate it marginally.

    EPOC is estimated during the workout based on the intensity and duration of your efforts and rest periods. Peak EPOC is the key number, and how high it is and how fast it builds drives the Training Effect.

    Now, the same peak EPOC dynamics will create a higher recovery time for a less trained athlete than for a trained athlete. That could explain what you are seeing, at least partially.

    Peak EPOC is estimated based on your Max HR, Rest HR as reference points, and your HR, pace/power if available and on/off intensity periods. This means, if there are issues with your HR or pace data capture (for example because of erroneous data from the HR sensor), if your Max HR is not accurate and/or has changed, or your Rest HR is off because you don't wear the watch at night, then there will be changes in your EPOC calculations that are not linked to your fitness/training history.

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    Thanks Etupes25 & pxl.  Maybe it's just me, and I need to push myself more than my RPE.  I do wear the watch 24/7, and think that I have a good handle on my recovery/load even without the watch.  Usually the watch gives me feedback, and I agree with it around 80% percent of the time, but after the last update, it just seems off...