[feature request] Option to remove ‘Edit’ from glances on watch

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I second this, so annoying. Such an oversight

I have nothing against removing the glance edit line, but why do you have to "scroll past the edit option Every Single Time"? When you enter the glances, you never end up on the edit option. And when you exit, you can just swipe right or press the back button. Frankly, I've never even paid attention to the edit option, and I use glances all the time. 

And I really hope Garmin doesn't add any more minor configuration options, their software is brittle enough already.

This has to be the goofiest take on these entire forums, either that or you're a Garmin undercover agent.

You mentioned "Scrolling past edit every single time" in your reply to my post. I wasn't the one saying that, OP was. Admittedly it doesn't happen every single time to me, and It's definitely more of a problem for touchscreen users.

It's really not something functionally broken, and nobody claimed it was, it's more on the minor annoyances list. I see it as a huge oversight. it's a sports watch, so obviously sometimes when you interact with it your precision is lacking and the conditions aren't the best. Adding a permanent extra option to the scrolling that you really only use sporadically makes no sense.

Not sure about you, but everybody I know that uses Garmin, myself included, chose this over other options to get rid of clogged and inefficient menus. The simplistic ui, albeit with enough data are one of the selling points.

But to each their own, and you're allowed to have your preferences, however I doubt you prefer the Edit pencil icon there permanently. But what really baffles me is how you end your post by saying you hope they don't add an option to hide the edit because you're afraid the software will break apart? 

Even if that was a real possibility, that's a terrible take.

So rather than hoping Garmin fixes their "brittle software" in order to maybe add quality of life changes and fixes you'd rather the software stagnates just so it doesn't ultimately shatter. Ultimately even if that option was added it would not interfere with people who don't use it? 

Wow, someone hire this guy for costumer rep, you got the right ideas, my guy.

This has to be the goofiest reply I've even got on these forums.

First, I replied to the original post, not your reply (if you look, there's no "in reply to 1430136" at the header of my message).

Second, as I wrote, I have nothing against removing the edit option at the end of glances. I never use it, it doesn't bother me, but its absense wouldn't either.

But I really don't know how you think my post somehow made me a Garmin agent. The reason for the whole post is that I'm critical of Garmin's lack of software quality. They clearly don't have enough resources on their software department to even handle their current software and fix already existing bugs without constantly introducing new bugs that remain unfixed for a long time. So my personal opinion is that they should currently concentrate more on fixing bugs than tweaking "minor annoyances" (as you put it). If their software quality was better, my opinion would be different.

And I'm very strongly against introducing an option to choose whether to offer an option to edit glances. First, an option to choose whether to have an option is overly complicated (especially since the current "edit glance" is already redundant, as already said). But what people don't realize is that every time you add an option in software's settings, it makes software testing more difficult and introduces a possibility for new bugs. If you could toggle the "edit glance" on/off, every new feature/fix concerning glances would have to be tested both with the option on and off (in combination with all other things that affect glances). And any failure to do so would introduce new subtle bugs. Already now Garmin's glances have several bugs. Connecting the watch to Garmin Express occasionally corrupts the order of glances. Every time I reboot my watch, a new top-level race glance appears, even though I've removed it several times and I already have a race glance in a glance folder. And so on.

I stand corrected on the reply thing.

Yes, I did read your post, and your initial statement is akin to the infamous phrase "I'm not racist, but..."

As for everything else you're saying, it definitely shows your ignorance on this subject.

Garmin software isn't overly complicated to the point where a simple option to hide the "edit menu" would result in new bugs. The examples you're offering involve entirely unrelated functions with different software and hardware.

"But what people don't realize is that every time you add an option in software's settings, it makes software testing more difficult and introduces a possibility for new bugs. If you could toggle the "edit glance" on/off, every new feature/fix concerning glances would have to be tested both with the option on and off (in combination with all other things that affect glances). And any failure to do so would introduce new subtle bugs."

Even if any of this were true, your reasoning is lackluster. Let me get this straight: we bought a product, a pricey one at that, and the software isn't the best (according to you). So instead of pushing for new features, fixes, and quality of life improvements, we should refrain because poor Garmin devs can't test it all out? What sort of excuse is that? They make the software, they make the product, and they should test it properly. Are you really implying that we as customers should be satisfied with subpar performance and UI design because it's "hard to test" (according to you)? When customers become complacent about the shortcomings of the products they purchase, product quality will tank over time.

More importantly, and why I even wrote the previous long-winded reply, this is a post suggesting a feature. Your reply offered no value to this post. A quick search shows that many others are suggesting the same thing. Just because it doesn't happen to you or you don't find it annoying doesn't mean others feel the same.

You asked OP why he "HAS" to scroll through the "EDIT" when it's obvious that what he means is that he accidentally finds himself there more often than he wants to. On a 5cm diameter touchscreen, this is totally within the realm of possibilities. His suggestion would eliminate his and others' frustration when this happens.

Save some Body Battery and refrain from answering this reply, as I don't see what else you could add. Plus, it could strain the forum's server, which is so hard to test with all these posts, especially waste-of-time type replies.

To the original poster 4493476 : (1430136, feel free to ignore this message, I don't wish for more offensive personal remarks.)

The reason I asked you about how you constantly bump into this problem was to learn more about the problem and offer you a potential solution to avoid it, since it's probable that Garmin doesn't make changes to glance editing at least right away.

Since this is mainly an end-user forum for discussion, it's not guaranteed that Garmin takes note of your suggestion here. That's why I suggest you also submit it to Garmin's Share Ideas page: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/ideas/

If I had to choose myself how to improve the situation, I would probably suggest to only show "edit glances" when the glance list or glance folder is empty, so that it's easy to start adding glances (so it would rather say "add glances"). That way new users get to add glances easily, but the option wouldn't bother those who have already done so. (Feel free to submit this idea as well, if you find it appealing.)

See how this was a much more helpful reply?

Thanks.

I notice when I have a shower, the water on the watch quite often causes a scroll to the edit line and even add glances I don’t want. 
For me, that would be the primary reason to remove this unnecessary edit option. (Not behind yet an other configuration option. Just remove it completely. )

(as a clumsy workaround I have a hotkey the disable touch. But it’s a really clumsy workaround)