Testing the water: 955 to Fenix 8

so, i did an impulsive thing. as i was anxiously waiting for a Forerunner 975 to come out since January 1, i decided to pull the trigger on a Fenix 8. it's ridiculously expensive, even at the combined 23.5% discount (20% off + stacking some cash back stuff), but i really was tired of forgetting a headlamp and trying to use my phone for a flashlight to pick up the dog's poop at night.

i'm only a day into this experiment;  i have a 30 day window to see if i like it enough (price notwithstanding) or if a Forerunner 975 drops.

i'm hoping i can share some experiences here and potentially answer questions some of you might have if you're thinking about a seismic shift like i am and/or wondering if the rumored (?) upgrades to the 955/965 are of any value.

Background: i've been a Forerunner user since 2011 (FR210) and wearing one as a 24/7 device starting with a 935 in 2017. i appreciated the light weight of these devices that managed to include almost all the Fenix software bells and whistles). i also have been a huge fan of the MIPS face. very subtle yet usable in low light and outdoors. i have historically only used the backlight using the gesture setting between sunset and sunrise. i've been reluctant, like many here, to get on the AMOLED train since i don't need my watch "screaming at me" with it's brightness. 

all in all, my 955 Solar does everything i need it to do for my active lifestyle of running, hiking, cycling, and backpacking. (with random sports in the snow and kayaking thrown in on occasion) the GPS accuracy has been awesome and the Elevate 4 sensor is good enough for most scenarios except spotty for running at times where i have usually used a chest strap, but after getting some wonky results during cold runs (in CA! haha) this winter, i went strapless for several weeks and realized how freeing it was in spite of the mediocre HR data.

So, why would i even upgrade or consider a FR975 (yet to be released), let alone a Fenix 8? Three things: 1. slightly larger screen in the 47mm size (which the 965 has) which is good for these 56 year old eyes, 2. the flashlight -- not for running/hiking per se, but for toilet adventures in the middle of the night and picking up dog poop, 3. the potential of an improved OHR sensor.

Obviously, these a "privileged" desires, not absolutely necessities.

anyway, it's way too early to give a verdict, but here are some initial thoughts:

1. as i suspected, the flashlight is life changing. obviously, i could use a headlamp going to the toilet or walking the dog, but having it on my wrist is so convenient. 

2. i've only done one run, but the Elevate 5 sensor, for my skin/arm is a definite improvement. it seems to respond more quickly to slight changes in effort and while it did do the wonky drop in HR (by about 10 beats) midrrun, unlike my 955 (which would do the same thing regularly), it corrected itself after a minute whereas the 955 would keep at the at lower HR. 

3. the AMOLED screen: while i still need to get used to the brighter screen, setting it at 1/3 brightness has worked well and i daresay, the AOD dimmed mode is perfect for my indoor uses of glancing at the time/data without having to move my wrist (while typing this, for example).

moreover, the screen size and pixel density is a game changer for my old eyes. i find the "6 data field" screen is much more readable while running. i think this is a combination of not just the higher pixel density and 0.1" bigger screen, but also the font utilized by Garmin on the Fenix 8 vs the 955. i am guessing one would see this similar improvement on the 965*.

4. i'm using the Fenix 8 with an ultrafit band (same one as my 955) and it is comfortable, but the extra 17 grams of case weight is noticeable. i'm a day in now, and i'm noticing the weight difference less even after only 24 hours. thankfully, i didn't think it was uncomfortable to sleep with which was my initial concern.

5. build quality: most people say the Fenix series is so much more robust. while i think the materials are more premium (and heavy!), i would argue that cosmetically, the FR series may be more tolerant of abuse (case, not screen): none of my previously mentioned FR's looked significantly beat up after many years of use and banging into walls or while working on the car. i'm pretty sure i will scratch the titanium on the Fenix 8 before i know it although such blemishes can be polished out. the FR series to me are very durable and impervious to getting blemishes in time to the casing.

6. battery life looks like it will be consistent with what reviewers have suggested. i am guessing that with my low brightness setting and AOD turned off while sleeping, it is good for 10 days of smart watch usage, or 7 days with my typical 6 hours of GPS activity + 3 hours of strength training (no GPS). i'll likely charge every 6 days or so to keep the battery level above 20%.

anyway, those are some initial thoughts. i'm not 100% convinced i'll keep the watch. if a 975 with an Elevate 5 sensor and flashlight comes out in the next 1-2 weeks, i would seriously consider returning this Fenix and going for the lighter watch at what i would anticipate being a lower price, even accounting for the significant discount i bought the F8 at.

are any of you in the same place i've been recently? hankering for a flashlight and newer HR sensor? if so, shoot me questions here or directly. happy to share my experiences and answer any questions.

*ps. i never gave the 965 serious consideration because i couldn't justify the lateral upgrade for just the screen (which i wasn't sure i would want to adopt after years of MIPS use) and i didn't like the domed screen not being able to take a flat tempered glass protector.

  • latest rumor seems to be May.

    all is well in my Fenix 8 test except when it isn't. today was run #5 and the Elevate5 did what my Elevate4 did frequently: about 5 miles into my run, it dropped about 5-10 beats and then stayed depressed about 10 bpm (guesstimate) until I finished my run a mile later. the OHR locked back into a proper heart rate about 30 seconds into the "recovery heart rate" calculation. I'm a bit bummed to have this happen with this model, but it guess it's just the nature of OHR having weird issues. we'll see how it does in the days ahead. I know the chest strap is always going to be the most reliable, but I really like the idea of running without a strap.

  • Thanks Derek - hopefully the basic structure remains similar to the 965 as the size of the 965 is really good. 

    I still run with a strap. So used to it after all these years.  Its a tad frustrating these OHR issues remain as at some stage (a while ago now in reality) it seemed more stable across all devices (looking at the various forums)

  • I can't imagine they will change the form factor of the 975. in the "vapor world" it looks like it could/should be the perfect watch for most people. I just got impatient :) 

    even if I waited for a 975, I would have 2 necessities/changes from the 965//955: flashlight, and non-domed screen so it could take a tempered glass protector. I'm too clumsy to keep a screen from getting banged up. of course, to be fair, I never gave the Gorilla Glass a chance. I've always slapped a protector on from day 1 and replaced them periodically. they are clearly softer than the Gorilla Glass, but I didn't want to take a risk. on the flip side, I am going to hope and pray that the Sapphire on my Fenix 8 holds up well to my occasional banging it against things. if not, I'll learn my lesson :) 

  • Im sure it's a lovely watch.  Enjoy! My screen is still good on my 965.

  • you're not clumsy :) 

    in all seriousness, it's hard to tell if my prior watches would have gotten scratched up like my screen protectors, but I viewed the tempered protector as cheap insurance.

    I will definitely be keeping my eye on the 975 coming out of general geeky interest. I'm in the process of discussing selling my 955 Solar to a friend.  if that goes through, then this Fenix 8 is a done deal (it's 99% sure right now), as that makes me feel better about the net money spent.

  • I have a 955. It was awful for the first year. Now, I can say it does everything that I need (almost) and it does it well. I was looking forward to the 975 dropping due to the larger amoled screen. I’m getting older and it’s getting increasingly difficult to use MIPS screen on night runs.

    However, I don’t plan on buying anymore Garmin products at this time. As long as they continue down this path of subscription-based features wrapped up in connect plus, I have no desire to reward them monetarily. The software has gotten more riddled with bugs with each release. Now that developers will be focused on plus, it will be worse. I recommend looking elsewhere.

  • I agree: the 955 was awful for the first year, my 935 and 945LTE were bad for about 9 months. I stepped into this Fenix 8 8 months in and it's "mostly fine" with a few head scratching bugs that aren't show stoppers. it seems all par for the course with Garmin.

    I'm probably going to look foolish if Garmin makes a continued road on this subscription model in the next 2-3 years, but I suspect/hope that for the basic things I care about, they will remain free. the things they are offering right now with Connect+ are laughable, and even if they were free, I don't think I'd use them much as there are other things that do the job better (eg, Runalyze).

    I can vouch that the extra 0.1" makes a big difference in viewing, along with the higher resolution of the AMOLED. 5-6 fields was a stretch for me on the 955 and I can now see 6 fields comfortably at a glance. I would say 8 fields on the Fenix 8 is about equivalent in easy of reading to the 5 fields on the 955.

  • the things they are offering right now with Connect+ are laughable, and even if they were free, I don't think I'd use them much as there are other things that do the job better (eg, Runalyze).

    Absolutely. Strava already re-states the obvious from my data. I don't need to pay Garmin more to have them do the same.

    The extra challenges a Connect+ sub unlocks feel like loot boxes in games.

  • So, the decision has been made. I will keep the Fenix 8 and hopefully not regret the decision whenever the 975 is announced. I have gotten used to the weight and overall like every aspect about the Fenix 8 besides the price. I would never have paid $1099 for it, but can stomach the price with the stacked discounts/cash back I used, and now that I am selling the 955 to a friend, the net cost is reasonable.

    it's been great being part of this forum for the past 3 years. we've gone through many growing pains (with the firmware) together and I've appreciated the camaraderie.

    I'm happy to answer any questions others might have about the 955 vs Fenix transition, so continue to post them here or send me a message.

    best wishes to all of you, and those of you waiting for that 975 which will surely come at some point in 2025!

  • Enjoy Derek! Thanks for your inputs.