Battery life still sucks - 21.19

Hi guys. Some of you wrote that in beta battery life improved. Well, installed firmware 21.19 (finally) with big hopes...and remained disappointed..AGAIN by Garmin.

FIX the damn battery life finally!

I drained it completely (955 Solar), charged to 100% yesterday at 17:30.

Now it is 26 hours later - lost 11%, at 89% with everything turned off on the watch, no phone syncing, checked jet lag, Garmin share, wifi off, phone sync off, sensors scanning off, etc.

After the update turned it off by long press. Twice and then when it depleted. Turned it off today for the third time but it doesn't help a bit.

About year ago the watch drained 6 or max 7% per day...and when they rolled out some firmware version about 5% more per day, don't remember which one. Waiting for more than a year to fix that.

There is no way to come close to advertised battery life since then. I am looking at Enduro 3, but I don't want to pay twice the price and get another set of bugs. I guess that is the tactic.

So are there any users that experience better battery life on final v21.19?

  • Charged monday evening at 10pm - today wednesday evening at 9pm - I am at 82% (90 mins of running with the watch light on) - I would say that is more than fine to me.

  • I don't know...I guess my battery is done then if you are doing better than this. The watch is an year and a half old, replacement because of the buggy firmware on previous (v12 or 13 back then, the thing that they never corrected - after GPS activity turning on airplane mode drains battery completely in couple of hours if not turned off). It has higher serial number and clicky buttons, unlike previous one, looked completely new. 

    So after 76 hours at 62% = 12%/day without touching the watch except morning report and no sync...and NO recorded activity.

  • I'm totally sympathetic to your situation. hard to compare apples to apples here but if you want a real test, I'd try a different watch face... perhaps a stock one with less info. I know that's not what you bought the watch for, but might eliminate one more variable.

    here's my daily check in:

    121 hours (5+ days) and I'm sitting at 43% (57% drained) [aside, I did my math inccrrectly yesterday with a brain fart. it was at 4 days or 97 hours]; 12% All Satellites usage; 4% strength training (this is hard to guess) ---> 41% for 5 days or just over 8%/day. thee last couple of days are more in line with "normal" but I'm still seeing the effects of that first 24 hours of rapid drain. I'll probably be changing it around 30% and at a time when I can hopefully let it trickle charge for an extra 45-60min once it's hit 100% to see if I get more normal behavior.

  • For a test, after charging the battery next time, could you enable the sync (BT) again on the watch and see how that affect things? I have a sneaking suspicion that the watch still wants to sync, but has no way to do it, yet still burns energy looking for a way to sync. 
    I disabled BT on my phone a few weeks back (was an accident) and thus my watch couldn't sync anymore. In 1 day I lost about 15% battery, almost double what it normally uses. After enabling BT again, all went back to normal. I'm not saying that this fixes your issue, but it's a thing you could easily test.

  • it sounds like your behavior is consistent with what I have very roughly (again only one charge cycle) and many others have reported...a not killer, but significantly elevated battery drain. my number( see above) seem to be getting a little better.

    I do feel I have decent handle on what drain was/should be since I have been pretty stable on Big Easy as my watch face the past couple of years and the other couple alternates use similar or less power.

    I do note that for the time period of roughly June-August with sunnier days and me spending more time outside, my battery endurance is appreciably higher with the Solar, but it makes no difference for the other 9 months of the year unless I'm out all day on a particular day.

    I'm a little bummed about the elevated burn rate because I had a very consistent routine of charging it once a week without tons of buffer. now, that choice would drive me below 20% which is something I try to avoid on most of my devices.

  • Thanks guys. I will try with default watchface first. I was avoiding it because of that seconds circle, but was already trying that watchafe on some of the previous fimwares.

    One important point - it is loosing about 4% during sleep mode (no pulse ox), from 10 pm till 6 am...comparing that to 6,5 - 7%/day for the whole day, on way older firmwares.That makes me think it is not the watchface to blame + in sleep mode I think it doesn't sync with phone.

    After that I will try to leave phone - ON. Here in Europe is the winter almost, when I am done with the job, there's no sun anymore so I don't count on any of solar "charge" and on weekends it hides under the jacket sleeve most of the time.

    The funny thing is I wanted to take care of battery charging it 20%-80%...I guess that didn't work for me as expected:)

  • for the record, early on, I tried to explore what airplane mode and turning off BT would do for me, and there were a few odd instances where, as as Marco suggested, the watch drained more than having it on. (this was for earlier firmwares during year 1).

    for the default watch face, you can have the seconds circle of a seconds hand. there are also some other watch faces too that you might try that might use even less power.

    4% overnight is a ton. I don't usually look anymore but certainly my drop (before FW21) was about 1-2% from 10-6 (those too are my watch sleep hours where backlight drops to 10%, I turn off touch, and the watch doesn't display seconds on gesture).

    again, I agree that it should be burning 6.5-7% for an efficient watch face (others I use are Coros Apex Like and TactixCharlieHR with seconds always on and these use this sort of battery -- less than Big Easy)

    keep us posted. I always charge to 100% but like you try to charge before it hits 20% (usually 20-30%)

  • Changed watchface to stock one with seconds circle. Sleep mode activates at 23 to 6-ish in the morning. Checked before midnight it was on 61%, woke up after 6, it was on 60% glanced through the Morning Report dropped down to 59% and two hours later (now) it is on 58%.

    That seems better, for the night.

    Today I must go for a run so I won't know the usage for 24h without activity, but it will be close enough to draw a conclusion...in about next 8 hours, till I get home and go for a run.

    Phone sync is currently off. Quatro wf is the one I purchased. When I got it people were writing that is uses battery very low, I had no dynamic fields that change every second (ie. seconds or HR) and refresh was every 2 minutes I think.

    I'll try those watchfaces you mentioned in the next few days when this test is over.

  • I have had major battery drain problems with various 20.xx, one worse than the other, but with 21.19 stock dial and accident detection disabled, everything finally works as it should

  • daily check in. went for 1 hr run today and now, just an hour shy of 6 days, I'm down to 29% and will likely charge when I'm working at my desk this afternoon.

    as before (all firmwares), battery use is starting to accelerate. that's a 14% drop in less than a day with at most 4% used by the GPS activity.

    I will do another full reboot/reset during this upcoming charge cycle. @Luca I'm glad you are having better luck. what kinds of "smart watch" drain are you experiencing with you stock dial (the combo analog/digital one I assume you are referring to?)