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half marathon plan through Garmin - strange 10mi run 9 days before the half marathon?!

This is my second time using the half training plan through Garmin using Coach Amy. 

I had great success using her plan last year and I'm following it again for the Monumental half in 2 weeks. 

So far after 15 weeks of training I feel even better than I did last year at this point, however, 9 days before the half there is a 10 mile easy run that popped up next Thursday where there would typically be a 3-4mile easy run.

Has anyone seen this?

It just seems very odd to see a 10mi easy run 9 days out, when 2 weeks out the long run is only 6mi.

I know the standard answer is just listen to your body which I always do anyway, but it seems like something is amiss with the training algorithms or something.

  • no one else has replied, so thought I'd chime in - 10 miles is a reasonable prep, give it a try and if it feels bad then at least you'll have a good idea how it will feel on the day. Or cut it short if you prefer, it's up to you.  Easy means easy, and 9 days is plenty to recover, your last week will be a light load anyway.  

  • I would not consider 10miles run as too much in the phase you are in. Running less would make me worried. It is an easy run, so take your time as @R_M wrote.

  • To be honest I think the suggested long runs tend to be on the short side. 
    9 miles is not too long for me. 

  • Thanks, oh for sure. The plan went up to 15mi a few weeks ago so 10mi isn't the issue.

    Just seems odd because every Thursday for the last several weeks has been 4mi, now 9 days before the race for the Thursday run it's 10. Just odd but no huge deal. 

  • I've found the same sort of thing with these Garmin plans - start off easy and jolly you along saying how great you're going, then about a week before it turns super hard. Had to abort an event through getting injured trying to achieve repeat times - I simply wasn't ready for it at the time. 

    I don't use Garmin coaches now. Make your own plan is my advice - Daniel's formula is a really good starting point.

  • And how is it with the total km's per week? Is that increasing or decreasing? Just curious. Maybe the difference is your stamina/training status at the moment. If that is better than before, you get more km's?.

  • Since this is the last 2 weeks before the half the total miles for the week is a slight decrease. It's around 25mi for the week. The plan went up to around 36mi in the heaviest week. That was the week that had the 15mi long run.

    This really isn't a question of whether or not I can comfortably run 10mi 9 days before the race, that is not a problem, my main question was if anyone else has seen this happen in their plan if they used the Garmin plan.

    The other kinda strange thing is next week (which is the week of the race) the plan has put a "tired" run of 3mi in for next Tuesday and a 10x30 second fartlek workout in for Wednesday.

    I've been running half marathons for 20 years now so I've been through my share of training plans. The speedy stuff the week of the race isn't bad since it's a good way to get the final easy practice of the pace you are wanting to shoot for, but the weird 10mi run was just a little perplexing since that mid-week 10mi run is longer than any of the weekend long runs over the last few weeks Slight smile

    Thanks everyone for the input! Hopefully this conversation will at least help someone else if they come up with the same question.

  • Let's see. I am in my 9th week of 14 weeks total for training plan 21k. I will keep an eye on strange behaviour coming weeks. At this moment my training load is about 45-50 km's a week. What wonders me is that I hardly train on the pace I set as goal. But that is another discussion :-)

  • Yep that's what I've noticed with Coach Amy. In my plan I input that I can run 5x week for the training.

    What the majority of the plan has been is

    Monday - tired run where you go as fast as possible without overdoing it

    Tuesday - speed repeats, all much faster than desired half marathon pace

    Wednesday/Thursday - short easy runs (so easy that I have to do these faster than prescribed)

    Saturday - easy long run (so easy that I have to do these faster than prescribed)

    So I've been using the tired runs as my times to run at the speed I'm shooting for in the half and that really seems to be working. Actually it has ended up that the tired runs have ended up faster than goal pace which has been nice :)

    Between Saturday - Tuesday this plan really loads up the legs with the long run followed by one day off then a tired run then speed repeats. I can say those 4 days are the crux of the plan and they really work to help get you in shape.

    My anticipated time for the half has decreased over 5 minutes in the last couple of months so I couldn't be happier with the Garmin plan. :)

    Good luck with your training!